dana1028
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I can't find the code section for this :-?
conductor split between 2 lugs
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I'll assume you are not talking about the lack of white tape. :grin:
I'm sure there is another article but I would use art. 310.4(A) for paralleled conductors being a minimum of 1/0
I'm sure there is another article but I would use art. 310.4(A) for paralleled conductors being a minimum of 1/0
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I hate using 110.3 and I don't see where in 110.14 it states this. Help a fellow old man out, Gus.
One-eyed Jack
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I don't have a problem with that. All of the strands were terminated and he did not put more "conductors" under the lug than it was rated for. It would be a real stretch to call it "parrallel".
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why would that be a stretch? It is parallel, IMO. Do I think there should be a problem with this-- probably not but I don't see it as code compliant.
Not much different than 110.3(b) (and I agree I hate using that one, but sometimes it's the best we can do), but 110.14 states:"......devices such as pressure terminal or pressure splicing connectors and soldering lugs shall be identified for the material of the conductor and shall be properly installed and used."
The data stickers on the panels give the wire range for "proper use"
The data stickers on the panels give the wire range for "proper use"
dana1028
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Actually there is white tape, just out of the photo.
dana1028
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Ditto - I had perused these sections too but was hoping I had missed something elsewhere in the code that would address this more concisely.
Thanx for your feedback.
One-eyed Jack
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If you measure the individual groups of conductors they will fit nicely within the wire range specified. He did not trim the conductor to fit.
RICK NAPIER
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I agree with 110.3(B) and 110.14. Calling them parallel and citing 310.4(A) implies if the wire was big enough you could do this.
I don't see how you can use that argument, and then say they aren't parallel conductors.
If the contact resistance of the two sets of wires aren't the same, the current won't divide evenly.
Steve
Most stranded conductors have an odd number of strands. That alone will prevent the current from dividing evenly. Some even have 2-3 different sizes of strands.
volt101
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I am with Gus on this one. Not permitted.
Jim W in Tampa
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That wire was not listed to be terminated that way. Also not good workmanship. Do the right thing and tag it. Not tagging this is unfair to the others that spend time and money to comply with nec. Only hacks do tricks like this.
One-eyed Jack
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My point exactly. Mechanical lugs for "single" conductors with two set screws are readily available. Two compression points on a single conductor spaced 3/8 inch apart. You guys don't seriously think that a detrimental current division is going to occur at that point.
No, but if I have to go to court, I don't want to try and justify a violation I chose not to enforce.
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