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Well - its Day one of the mandatory certification requirement - anyone get busted yet?
I don't know. Did you get a permit, and do you have the mandatory certification? :grin:bkludecke said:I do alot of business replacing the light fixtures after the building is finaled. I wonder if that is a crime????????
Cal. law has NO TEETH WHATSOEVER.satcom said:Better get a good chair. If Cal is anything like Jersey, it only took them 40 years to start enforcement....
What agency checks the electricians and enforces the law on job sites?
The Statute does not currently provide for state enforcement.
Who is penalized when an electrician is found working without a valid certification?
The individual who is not certified will be considered illegally working.
What is the penalty when an electrician is found working without a valid certification?
According to our Regulations 294.0 - any person who displays a certificate, or otherwise claims to be certified, who is not certified shall be prohibited from taking the test for certification for a period of five(5) years.
Actually it's worse than that. The law was put in to effect by the Dept. of Industrial Relations- Beurau of Apprenticship Standards and they never even talked to the CSLB about it. It has only been in the last year that many ECs were even aware of it because the CSLB never made mention of it in their newsletter. I'd rather watch sausage being made than watch the CA legislative process. They held the whole thing up for over a year because the test in Spanish was too hard. The required apprentiship training which is now required before you can take the test is under fire because it is completely unworkable with the few programs available. One could be in a in blimp and fly under the radar of this system. The sad thing is that the idea was a good one, it works in many other states and CA can't even begin to get it right.cowboyjwc said:Everyone is calling me and asking if we are enforcing it and I keep asking enforcing what?
It's a state law put into effect by the Contractors State License Board and they have not deputized me or even told me what I would do if the person didn't have their cert.
Gotta love those "no teeth laws".
As Cowboy said anyone who works for an EC must be certified. If a person is not certified but is in a state approved apprenticship program (union or non-union) they can work so long as there is a one-on-one supervision ratio; that means for every apprentice there must be at least one supervising j-man on the job. It gets worse. By law a general contractor may do electrical work and his electricians do not need to be certified, neither do electricians working for commercial facilities, industrial plants, municipalities etc. I stay in this state because it's so much fun to watch it happen!JohnJ0906 said:There might be a few of us over on the other coast besides me wondering exactly what "mandatory certification" y'all are refering to!:-?
bkludecke said:By law a general contractor may do electrical work and his electricians do not need to be certified, neither do electricians working for commercial facilities, industrial plants, municipalities etc. I stay in this state because it's so much fun to watch it happen!