Inspection

[hbiss]

They do not do open wall inspections in NYC there's simply not enough personal to effectively do it

Hence why 99% of the time no one Staples ac/MC cable unless it's in the way of the rockers

Wow!

-Hal

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Even when everything you are installing is exposed/surface mounted?

Say you made a single run of raceway with no more than 10 boxes with devices in them. 1/2 day job or even less if you don't have to wait for an inspector to tell you you can put devices in. Here the inspector might be 100 miles away that day - that is how large their territories can be around here.

In one area the inspectors state that they are not responsible for opening up the boxes. I did a small carport with 2 receptacles, 1 switch and a light. I had to go back a second time to trim it out-- all exposed

 

[kwired]

In one area the inspectors state that they are not responsible for opening up the boxes. I did a small carport with 2 receptacles, 1 switch and a light. I had to go back a second time to trim it out-- all exposed

Here they just randomly open up a box at times if they want to look at your connections. On new construction almost never have any connections made up at rough in unless it is something that is already in use. Rough inspection involving raceways might not even have any conductors pulled yet .
Not a metro area and inspectors typically get to know the contractors to some extent, and don't necessarily look over every detail with those they trust. Try to pull things off and they catch on and they will be looking harder in the future. Still get that one inspector here or there that does typically look at more details, especially if he is not so familiar with you and your work, but even then will often just pull a few random covers or even devices and as long as there is consistency will probably assume you did the same for all of them.

 

[nickelec]

What do you guys think ? Can you think of any violations?

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[102 Inspector]

2008 NEC 404.7 - General purpose switch does not indicate whether they are in the open or closed position.

 

[nickelec]

I don't understand that one

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[nickelec]

I was more concerned in regards to this set up with no sheetrock

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[Dennis Alwon]

I don't see an issue with it other than code violation with leaving that foam exposed

 

[LarryFine]

What do you guys think ? Can you think of any violations?

Ahh, specifics. I see no cable support.

On a 1-gang plaster ring, I would use a handy-box plate.

 

[tsogrady]

As Larry said, MC needs to be secured within 12" of jboxes

 

[tsogrady]

And I believe MC cable must be protected, and the sheetrock provides that protection. So I think it may fail inspection for that reason.

 

[tom baker]

Please explain what a austin/mulberry cover is... I am guessing its so you can use a 4S box and the AHJ can look at the wiring. Are they used with MC cable.
Just asking as its not something we see in Washington

 

[LarryFine]

Please explain what a austin/mulberry cover is...

Apparently, it's what they call:

 

[kwired]

Please explain what a austin/mulberry cover is... I am guessing its so you can use a 4S box and the AHJ can look at the wiring. Are they used with MC cable.
Just asking as its not something we see in Washington

It is just a simple raised cover that accepts a cover mounted device(s), those are two different brand names that happen to be out there.

Larry posted just seconds before I did - something like he showed is made with those names - and some people refer to them with those names.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Apparently, it's what they call:

We call them 4" raised or Mulberry covers around.here

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Is this in an ax tossing a facility? If not secure the box (those metal studs look flimsy) and cables properly and you should be fine.
In the end it's up to the inspector and how you want to proceed with there decision.

 

[Frank DuVal]

2008 NEC 404.7 - General purpose switch does not indicate whether they are in the open or closed position.

Interesting. I wonder if there is small imprint of ON and OFF somewhere on the edge of the rocker. This 404.7 is still in the 2017 NEC.

Anyone ever had an inspector fail because of a Decora single pole switch? Maybe they think they are all three way......

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Nope, not even on a kitchen backsplash for a garbage disposer or dishwasher

 

[LarryFine]

Who even looks, much less needs to look, at words when operating a switch?

Besides, "indicating" does not necessarily require words.

Does not the position of a switch handle, toggle, or rocker indicate the state of a single-pole switch?

 

[hbiss]

How did Decora style switches get listed then?

Interesting. I wonder if there is small imprint of ON and OFF somewhere on the edge of the rocker. This 404.7 is still in the 2017 NEC.

Does not the position of a switch handle, toggle, or rocker indicate the state of a single-pole switch?

"TOP" is indicated on the switch frame so that it will be installed such that the position of the rocker is correct.

Now, what do you do if you have to install it horizontally?

-Hal