support violation?

[don_resqcapt19]

Is this installation a violation of the rules found in the NEC?

 

[jumper]

Is this installation a violation of the rules found in the NEC?

Are we talking 314.23 here? 05 code.

 

[augie47]

It's normally accepted here provided the conduits are supported (or buried) within 18" although the use of the threadless connector may not be the letter of the law {314.23(F)}

 

[cadpoint]

Not supported, sure! One or three times, I don't believe the earth is considered as a means of support.

Workmanship, I might have sawed of the first .1/4" of thread on the left, and made a deeper ninety for the right conduit,
so there'd be no cost for that threadless fitting! ... but the latter are not violations unless this is spec'd otherwise.

 

[hotwire1955]

yes 314.23 (e) or (f) 2005 or 2008 code

 

[jumper]

It's normally accepted here provided the conduits are supported (or buried) within 18" although the use of the threadless connector may not be the letter of the law {314.23(F)}

1. Can I assume I got the right article?

2. Threadless connector, is that the funky compression one on the right?

 

[jumper]

...... and made a deeper ninety for the right conduit,

What ninety? I am not seeing one?:-?

Wait, I am an idiot, you mean the one in the ground. Doh!!!!

 

[cadpoint]

...

Wait, I am an idiot, you mean the one in the ground. Doh!!!!

I'll Ketchup, I like Mustard too

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

"Not supported, sure! One or three times, I don't believe the earth is considered as a means of support."

Why would earth not be support ? It holds pipe down without strapping. I would want at least 2 feet in the ground. Not all dirt is created equal. Depending on where that box is located will prove if it is securely mounted.

 

[480sparky]

Not supported, sure! One or three times, I don't believe the earth is considered as a means of support.............

What do you do when you trench in a raceway then?

 

[jumper]

What do you do when you trench in a raceway then?

I have put a raceway in a trench, but I have never trenched inside a raceway.Sounds difficult?:grin:

 

[don_resqcapt19]

It's normally accepted here provided the conduits are supported (or buried) within 18" although the use of the threadless connector may not be the letter of the law {314.23(F)}

And the threadless connector is where I am going with this.

 

[480sparky]

I have put a raceway in a trench, but I have never trenched inside a raceway.Sounds difficult?:grin:

But the pipe is on the earth, so how is it supported if earth is not a support?

 

[jumper]

But the pipe is on the earth, so how is it supported if earth is not a support?

480sparky, Ken if I may,

It was a silly attempt at humor, obviously I failed.

 

[480sparky]

480sparky, Ken if I may,

It was a silly attempt at humor, obviously I failed.

I think you misread me then.

I didn't say "when you put a trench in a raceway", I said "when you trench in a raceway....."

Then I misread you, as well as missed the humor.

 

[DARUSA]

314.23 F Make it a violation .
Two conduit must be threaded and directly connected to the box.No compression fitting are allowed to support the box.

 

[DARUSA]

314.23 F violation

314.23 F violation

314.23 (F) Raceway-Supported Enclosures, with Devices, Luminaires, or Lampholders. An enclosure that contains a device(s), other than splicing devices, or supports a luminaire(s), lampholder, or other equipment and is supported by entering raceways shall not exceed 1650 cm3 (100 in.3) in size. It shall have threaded entries or have hubs identified for the purpose. It shall be supported by two or more conduits threaded wrenchtight into the enclosure or hubs. Each conduit shall be secured within 450 mm (18 in.) of the enclosure. *
*

 

[jumper]

I think you misread me then.

I did. Sorry. Old eyes and no glasses.

 

[480sparky]

I did. Sorry. Old eyes and no glasses.

Eh? What'd you say, sonny? Goll-durn whippersnappers!

 

[jumper]

Eh? What'd you say, sonny? Goll-durn whippersnappers!

Thank you.