mbrooke
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I am being told that a GFCI is needed under a sink, but I cant find anything in 2014 NEC requiring that. Inspector claims its in there. :blink:
GFCIs under kitchen sinks
- Thread starter mbrooke
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210.8(A)(7) states (for dwelling) within 6' of a sink. I suspect under the sink is within 6'
mbrooke
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I regret to say that's it
But that's 6 feet within a sink, not under.
kwired
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I think you will see variations in how this is interpreted, but I think a majority will use the concept that if a six foot long cord plugged into the receptacle will reach the sink then it needs protected, even if a cabinet door needs to be open to do this. This may even make protection required in an upper cabinet receptacle should such a cord be able to reach the sink.I regret to say that's it
mbrooke
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But I would think if that was the intent of the NEC then it would explicitly say that. If that was indeed the intent then I would need GFCI protection behind the adjacent wall as well the basement ceiling right below the sink.
IMO 6 foot would be the other edges of the sink rather than underneath.
kwired
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That is the problem, NEC did not make their intent all that clear and the reason you will see differences in opinions of how to enforce it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in 2017 that does clarify the intent to some degree.
mbrooke
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electricalist
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What is the outlet for if I might ask?
rcarroll
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Garbage disposal and/or dishwasher possibly
electricalist
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This is from 210.8(8)
rcarroll
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I believe that is from the 2011 NECH. The 2014 NEC requires the dishwasher to be GFCI protected as well as receps within 6' of sinks.
electricalist
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rcarroll
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Has to be a typo. 2014 NEC 210.8(D) .....GFCI protection shall be provided for outlets that supply dishwasers install in dwelling unit locations.
rcarroll
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To clarify a GFCI outlet is not required, GFCI protection is.
electricalist
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I see that I had to grab my code book.
That handbook has a few things going down a diff path than the code book
That handbook has a few things going down a diff path than the code book
rcarroll
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Yeah, I rarely use the handbook. too many distractions for me.
I'll pull it out in my office during a spirited debate, if needed.
I'll pull it out in my office during a spirited debate, if needed.
electricalist
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It's been very helpfully and I think those who write the code should have a handbook to clarify things. Guess not.
rcarroll
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Which came first? The codebook or the handbook.
mbrooke
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I agree with the Handbook, I just cant picture someone taking a toaster with a 1 and half foot cord and plugging it underneath the sink.
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