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HOW FAR SHOULD YOU GO ON AN ARC FLASH/FAULT CURRENT STUDY? SHOULD YOU DO AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, OVERHEAD GAS UNIT HEATERS?
What series rating for then?If you get a packaged HVAC unit that has a label on it that says “5kA SCCR”, and you have even just 6kA AFC at that point, you cannot connect it
A series rating is only between two tested and listed OCPDs.What series rating for then?
CorrectA series rating is only between two tested and listed OCPDs.
No.Correct
110.10 and UL508A SupplementSB enable 5kA SCCR panel install 6kA AFC.
Explain pleaseNo.
Both of those references would not allow a 5kA rated item to be used where 6kA is available.
Have you actually read those references or are you only looking at summaries?Explain please
SummariesHave you actually read those references or are you only looking at summaries?
How can you make a comment on what the document says, if you have only read a summary?No ask to read full
Pretty easy. if the unit has a fault that draws the full 6KA and it is only tested to withstand 5KA that can be a big boo-boo.Summaries
No ask to read full
Please provide details those references would not allow a 5kA rated item to be used where 6kA is available.
Pretty easy. if the unit has a fault that draws the full 6KA and it is only tested to withstand 5KA that can be a big boo-boo.
But current limit device use upstream to raise panel effective sccr 5kA to 6kA accord 110.10 and UL 508A Supplement SB
Scenario 5kA sccr panel, 6k AFCSimple really, 5k > 6k. Not sure how you are interpreting that wrong…
But nothing permits you to install equipment with a SCCR that is less than the available fault current on the line side terminations of the equipment.The above110.10 require select ocpd and sccr of equipment to avoid extensive to equipment.
Some methods by Eaton in article EQUIPMENTBut nothing permits you to install equipment with a SCCR that is less than the available fault current on the line side terminations of the equipment.
Interesting some of you here (who I respect and listen to) have clearly stated that you can't use a fuse to reduce the AFC at a piece of equipment. This seems to say that you can with clarifications. If I read it correctly, if non passive items such as fuses and circuit breakers are fully rated to the AFC on the line side of the fuse, then the fuse can be used to lower the AFC to non passive components.4) Install a current-limiting overcurrent device,
such as a Class RK1 or J fuse, that reduces the
calculated available fault current to a value equal
to or less than the equipment SCCR. When using
the specific manufacturer let-through data, it is
suggested to mark the specific fuse required on
the equipment. For instance, “Replace with only
Eaton Bussmann series LPJ 60 A fuses.” This
method is only suitable for protecting “passive”
components in the equipment. It is NOT suitable
for non-passive devices such as circuit breakers
and fuses. Circuit breakers or fuses must have an
interrupting rating adequate for the calculated
available fault current. This limitation is based
on NEC 240.86(A), which indicates that using an
engineered series combination rating is only per-
mitted for existing systems, and is not permitted
where the circuit breakers are non-passive. Circuit
breaker manufacturers state that all modern circuit
breaker designs are non-passive, so an engineered
method is generally not permitted.
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