A/A Fuel GTX
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110.26 Question
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petersonra
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At what height is the PVC pipe?
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If it's directly above the panel then it violates the required dedicated equipment space.
petersonra
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Is it hurting anybody? Is it ever likely to get in the way of somebody working on the equipment? Since the answer to both of these questions is no, what is the purpose of the rule in this case other than an arbitrary rule that just gives inspector something to nitpick about.
A/A Fuel GTX
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The PVC is roughly 7' off the floor. This is a basement with an 8' ceiling. I'm installing a new service at this house. The PVC looks relatively new so the plumber caused this situation. The location of the PVC doesn't pose a problem to me but I don't want to get tagged upon inspection. It's darn near impossible to adhere to all 110.26 requirements in most basements.
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You are starting to sound like mbrooke. LOL I think it is more important in commercial work where you need to pipe out of panels. They are just trying to set guidelines to keep the electrical area clear so one can work, be safe and be able to do the job, IMO.
Also if the pipe starts to leak do you really want that over the panel...
petersonra
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That would seem to be a design choice, and not a safety issue.
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Have you read the code lately? Much of it is a design issue but imo this is a bit of a safety issue
petersonra
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What is inherently unsafe about it? It's no more unsafe than if you had a pressurized water line a few feet away out of the working space that might develop A leak and spray all over the panel.
Fred B
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NEMA 3 enclosures? If not it is a safety issue. Sewage leaking onto and into the enclosure not good. Also I went into electrical because didn't want to deal with other people sewage. Of course if it does leak and gets into enclosure its an excuse to replace panel. FEMA, National Manufacturers Association, IAEI, all recognize this as a hazard.
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At 7' AFF the PVC is not in the working space so that is not an issue. The issue is with the dedicated equipment space.
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Let's be real-- most electricians will more than likely not have ppe gear on and will work a panel hot. Now standing on a ladder with the cover off the panel try to do some pipe bends. Sure it is their own fault if they get hurt but sometime we need to be proactive.. JMO
mwm1752
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True that
petersonra
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I agree that it is a violation. It just is not one that matters any.
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I agree too given the setting but the pipe could leak into the panel.
petersonra
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The pipe could be 6 feet above the panel on a legal location and still leak.
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True, but it would then require a drip pan or some other leak protection.
petersonra
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I can't tell for sure from the picture but it looks to me like it is in front of the PB, not above it in the dedicated equipment space.
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If so there is no violation.
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