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Hey guys, pricing out a new house for a customer, and honestly its been a couple years since I've had to do a house. My state is finally adopting 2023 in July, which may or may not make a difference. We haven't had a good 2023 code update class yet, I'm just curious is there any really big change in dwellings in 23 a guy should know going in? I know about the change to island outlets, but that's about all I've heard about the last couple years.
 
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Hey guys, pricing out a new house for a customer, and honestly its been a couple years since I've had to do a house. My state is finally adopting 2023 in July, which may or may not make a difference. We haven't had a good 2023 code update class yet, I'm just curious is there any really big change in dwellings in 23 a guy should know going in? I know about the change to island outlets, but that's about all I've heard about the last couple years.
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the handbook version explains it all very clearly
 
Greentagger said:
GFCI requirements have increased most notably with appliances. 210.8(D).
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And no justification for this.

If the appliance is supplied by a receptacle in conditions of mentioned for A or B it might make some sense.

They amended 210.8 here to be mostly the same thing that it was in 2017.
 
NoahsArc said:
What'd they do now?
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Honestly not that bad if you go hardwired it's not a big deal either way.

Most new houses they'll ask for a charger pre wire so I run a 6-3 to an ac disconnect and that makes most people happy.

It was the 2020 that was the worst with not having products that were all of a sudden code requirements available.
 
Rookie question: if I don't want to buy an entire new codebook for a handful of relevant changes, is there an abridged changes-only book (that's hopefully a lot cheaper)?

Mostly I don't want to spend another 4-6 hours highlighting and tabbing a new book. I'd rather just pen in a few changes to my current one.
 
NoahsArc said:
Rookie question: if I don't want to buy an entire new codebook for a handful of relevant changes, is there an abridged changes-only book (that's hopefully a lot cheaper)?

Mostly I don't want to spend another 4-6 hours highlighting and tabbing a new book. I'd rather just pen in a few changes to my current one.
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Yes, but I don't recommend it. There is always "little" stuff that never made it into the book that comes back to bite you.

The free version of the NEC works really well on an iPad though, so there is always that if you need to look up something more obscure.

Significant change books are out there... Mike Holt has one, Ryan Jackson has one, the IECC puts one out... and you can find PowerPoints and videos online that municipalities put out to try to help the contractors get squared away before the new code hit.
 
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NoahsArc said:
Rookie question: if I don't want to buy an entire new codebook for a handful of relevant changes, is there an abridged changes-only book (that's hopefully a lot cheaper)?

Mostly I don't want to spend another 4-6 hours highlighting and tabbing a new book. I'd rather just pen in a few changes to my current one.
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You could get a membership to NFPA LINK by going to NFPA.org
They offer a 2 week free trial as well
It’s a digital handbook and you have the ability to click on any rules that have changed from previous cycle and view the previous cycles rule , and any new rules are marked N
 
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