210.8 (a)(7) laundry recepticles

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mrcanby said:
I have no sink in the laundry room, my question is: 210.8 (a)(7) says : Laundry,utility,and wet bar sinks within 6' of sink. must be gfci protected.

I've always just used a simplex device for washer when ever a sink wasn't present, now after rereading 210.8 I interpret it much different..
Am i interpriting this wrong or is a simplex recepticle fine for the washer?

Are the Laundry, Utility, Wetbar sink 3 different examples, or does the 6'ft distance pertain to laundry,utility?
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They are giving 3 different examples. It could read laundry sink,utility sink and wet bar sink. I had the same thing happen to me. The inspector ( who was new)just did not understand the wording of the code
 
nhfire77 said:
How bout:

2008 - 210.8A(7)
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Yes, what is your point. That article states that a gfci is required within 6' of a sink in laundry, utility and wet bar sinks. That has been mentioned all along.

In the 2005 there is an exception that allows a receptacle in unfinished basements where installed for appliances that are not easily moved to be exempt from the GFCI requirement. Also exempt for recep. that are not readily accessible-- but that is nec2005
 
mrcanby said:
considered a means of disconect.

there is no sink in the laundry room, a simplex recepticle would be used (if no sink is present) as a means of disconect.
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All cord caps where permitted to be used are a means of disconnect. Does not relieve GFCI requirements for the receptacle if otherwise required.

construct said:
You could ask him to show you the wording in the code that requires it. Or maybe talk to his supervisor. Or a Building Board of Appeals which seems like a huge process for such a small issue.:roll:
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Someone needs to educate him. If nobody does he will continue to enforce incorrectly.

Dennis Alwon said:
If it is an ufinished basement then a single receptacle would not be compliant unless it is fed thru a GFCI circuit. All 125V rec. in an unfinished basement must be GFCI protected--
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This is true.

mrcanby said:
some say to just plug the extra recepticle....
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With what? Breaking off tabs to make an inoperable half of a duplex I never thought was a good idea either. May have been code compliant but was a good reason for customer call back - why doesn't that one work?, If you replace it with a single recep at this time then they will complain they want the second place to plug something in - just makes you look stupid to them - not worth it. 2008 code this potential problem went away.
 
changing my interpritation.

changing my interpritation.

After rereading 210.8 (a)(7) i see laundry,utility, wetbar. 3 seperate areas, OR where within 6' range of a sink. The way i read it is laundry regardless of sink, utility regardless of sink and of course within 6' of a sink. thats my interpritation because if u go back to 2002, it just simply states wetbars or where within 6' of sink....
 
mrcanby said:
After rereading 210.8 (a)(7) i see laundry,utility, wetbar. 3 seperate areas, OR where within 6' range of a sink. The way i read it is laundry regardless of sink, utility regardless of sink and of course within 6' of a sink. thats my interpritation because if u go back to 2002, it just simply states wetbars or where within 6' of sink....
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I disagree with your interpretation of 210.8(A)(7).

I can't see where you are getting OR within 6' range of a sink.:confused:

The code says

"(7) Laundry, utility, and wet bar sinks ? where the receptacles are installed within 1.8 m (6 ft) of the outside edge of the sink."

So the first part of that section tells us what type of sinks this section applies too. Such as laundry sinks, utility sinks, and wet bar sinks.

The the second part gives us the distance where the GFCI protection is required when a receptacle is installed in the area around one of the type of sinks listed in the first part.

There is nothing in 210.8(A)(7) that requires GFCI protection of a receptacle installed in a laundry room on the main floor of a home that does not contain a laundry sink.

Chris
 
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