22 CI plastic box on a 2x4

Jack Hass

Member
Location
NY
Is there anything wrong with using the larger plastic box on a 2x4? The box almost takes up the entire 2x4 width.

Thanks
 

goldstar

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
I think that is the sheetrockers' problem, not yours. You get to back charge if they don't know how to aim for the center of the stud.
How many times have you been successful doing that ? The brain surgeon Roto-Zip Rebels often cut my wires to ribbons and I have to make the repairs. I've had one job where they missed cutting openings on an entire wall. I had to find the outlets with a tone generator and amplifier and then make the cuts. Usually the GC just wants to get the job done and doesn't want to hear about back charges. If you back charge the GC for petty amounts of money you won't get the next job. Just my opinion.
 

edward

Senior Member
How many times have you been successful doing that ? The brain surgeon Roto-Zip Rebels often cut my wires to ribbons and I have to make the repairs. I've had one job where they missed cutting openings on an entire wall. I had to find the outlets with a tone generator and amplifier and then make the cuts. Usually the GC just wants to get the job done and doesn't want to hear about back charges. If you back charge the GC for petty amounts of money you won't get the next job. Just my opinion.
It has happened to me once that they rotoziped the wires. Then again I will not change the size of the box based on sheetrockrrs ability.
If I don't backcharge on that job, i will make it up (double) on the next one.
 

jap

Senior Member
It has happened to me once that they rotoziped the wires. Then again I will not change the size of the box based on sheetrockrrs ability.
If I don't backcharge on that job, i will make it up (double) on the next one.
I've found commercial installs with Boxes,Plaster rings and stranded wire, the wire usually migrates towards the front of the box regardless.

Do you all that do a lot of that use any type of protector to keep the rotozip from getting into them or just cross your fingers ?

JAP>
 

JFletcher

Senior Member
Location
Williamsburg, VA
I've found commercial installs with Boxes,Plaster rings and stranded wire, the wire usually migrates towards the front of the box regardless.

Do you all that do a lot of that use any type of protector to keep the rotozip from getting into them or just cross your fingers ?

JAP>
Back when I did communications wiring, I'd duct tape the cables to the back of the box. Yes, this takes extra time, but nothing compared to splicing cables.
 

itsunclebill

Member
Location
CO
I've had siding guys drive nails through an interior load center box. I've also had cabinet guys manage to penetrate a cable that rests centered in a 2X6 wall that was never supposed to get cabinets. How much of what do you propose we need to do to protect a code compliant job from other trades?
 

1964element

Senior Member
Location
Chicago
On rope houses I use 1900 boxes I dislike plastic boxes.
I use 5/8 rings on 1/2 gyp board comes out perfectly flat on the drywall.
Switch boxes are deep boxes for dimmer heat sinks.

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al hildenbrand

Senior Member
Location
Minnesota
Is there anything wrong with using the larger plastic box on a 2x4? The box almost takes up the entire 2x4 width.
The heart of your question will get you to unpacking the language in 300.4(D). There's a lot of good stuff there.

Fletcher has cautioned about screws into the back of the box. . . I once had an inspector demand that I nail plate the back of single gang NM nail on boxes that were within 1-1/4" of the stud face! That got me so wound up that I had to build a physical model and kick the NEC words around here on the Forum. You can read one thread by clicking here.

 
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