30 amp Electric Range

Joethemechanic said:
I was picturing my grandmother canning fruit with all 4 burners going when I was thinking about stoves. She had a coal range in her kitchen also. The coal range burned all winter long, not to mention a summer kitchen with another coal range in the back of the house. She was a 1908 model Pa Dutchwoman. They don't produce that model anymore unfortunately.

BTW, here's the stove you need for canning

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I’d need gas.
 
ptonsparky said:
I’d need gas.
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Works good for me. 60 bucks for a 100 pound (22.5 gallons) Lasts me quite a while.

I have some tenants living in trailers out back. They have the the 120 gallon tanks like this. Some kind of level monitor on them that communicates with the cell towers. When they get low a truck comes and fills them. Propane company even supplies the tanks

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When I was a kid, Regina next door had one like this

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And those little tins got hot enough to burn your finger as she found out when she first got it and was making me a cake. She got so mad at me for laughing I got the silent treatment for the rest of the day
 
If there was enough demand, they'd make something like this:

https://www.microfridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/3-6MF4RA_ENGLISH_230714Current.pdf

These fridge/microwave combo has an outlet behind a NC relay within the microwave and when the microwave is in-use, the fridge is "unplugged" so that refrigerator does not stay on when the microwave is in use. I never really understood the real world usefulness. RLA of a small fridge is like 1A, so I'm not really even sure what difference it would make to unplug it for 5-10 minutes while the small 12A microwave is running.
 
Flicker Index said:
If there was enough demand, they'd make something like this:

https://www.microfridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/3-6MF4RA_ENGLISH_230714Current.pdf

These fridge/microwave combo has an outlet behind a NC relay within the microwave and when the microwave is in-use, the fridge is "unplugged" so that refrigerator does not stay on when the microwave is in use. I never really understood the real world usefulness. RLA of a small fridge is like 1A, so I'm not really even sure what difference it would make to unplug it for 5-10 minutes while the small 12A microwave is running.
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I’ve seen them in hotel rooms and dorm rooms. When they first started making them 30+ years ago, the fridge probably drew a couple more amps.
 
My mother used to can tomatoes. Usually in August when they came in the stove would be ripping and the house was hot and we had no AC back then. She did it but complained about the heat.
 
Grouch said:
I'm looking for a 30 amp electric range (208 volt, single phase). The minimum I'm finding from manufacturers is 40 amps.

Does anybody know of 30 amp ranges? I'm only finding 30 amp ovens... but I need a range (oven + cooktop).
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These only need 120v

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Joethemechanic said:
I use propane but I don't think I've ever used more than 2 burners at once.
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Even if you did use all four at same time they not likely all on high setting. If not on high, and they all cycled on at same time they wouldn't all stay on long enough to trip a 30 amp breaker. Chances are you also need the oven going to go past 30 amps as well. How many cooktop only units are out there that are only on 30 amp branch circuit? 4-1500 watt elements would be 25 amps if on at same time. Chances are you have smaller elements that are less than 1500 and larger that might be more than 1500 but still would have same net with two 1000 watt and two 2000 watt.

If you have the "glass top" style they may not even be that high of rating, or will have thermal switch to keep them from getting too hot so they often still cycle even when on high setting.
 
kwired said:
If you have the "glass top" style they may not even be that high of rating, or will have thermal switch to keep them from getting too hot so they often still cycle even when on high setting.
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My mom had one of those, I hated it. No power. I had one of the regular electric ranges at my house for a long time and it was ok, but nothing like using propane
 
Joethemechanic said:
My mom had one of those, I hated it. No power. I had one of the regular electric ranges at my house for a long time and it was ok, but nothing like using propane
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We have one. I hate cooking on it. Takes forever to bring a pot of water to a boil. Easy to burn things as you turn it up high thinking it will get there faster. Takes forever to get there but if you aren't paying attention when it does get there, you have burned whatever you are cooking.

My wife loves the fact it is easier to keep clean. We will never have any other kind of range/cook top because she wins this battle.
 
Joethemechanic said:
I never knew they made those.

I have a dual fuel boiler though. Coal stoker or oil. EFM model DF520

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It will burn dried corn or wood pellets too.
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about 20 years ago was wiring a new house. They put in a wood burning boiler that is in what looks like a little metal shed in the back yard. It also has a propane burner as a second fuel source. It eats a lot of propane if running in that mode. I still like my geothermal. No wood cutting, loading, unloading, chopping, stacking, carrying to the house or wherever it is burned. Most the issues I have had with it were electrical related or a circulating pump or zone valve issue and was able to fix myself. Zone valves seem to last forever, but the actuator heads tend to give up but the ones I have don't even need tools to replace other than something to poke the wiring release tabs, push and twist to remove the actuator from the valve.
 
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