410.73 -- Luminaire Disconnects -- What The Heck Does It Cover?!?

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acrwc10 said:
These were mentioned earlier in this thread. I saw them today and there good for 3amps. And cost about $1.50 each. very simple to use.

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You buy them by a plastic jug full got jug in truck never checked to see if it is fifty or hundred gotta have them oh well..you know that the female go on the live circuit then the males on ballast wonder how many you will find backwards..would having the exsposed metal pins live be a violation of the rule..that would be the picture on the right..

I have also used these but they are basicly the same idea just different design..
http://tnblnx3.tnb.com/emAlbum/albums/Stakon/GM1368_Luminaire.pdf
 
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acrwc10 said:
These were mentioned earlier in this thread. I saw them today and there good for 3amps. And cost about $1.50 each. very simple to use.

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Ok, there are so many words and exceptions that I'm (a) throughly confused (b) glad we're still stuck in 2002 and I'll assume I'm not the only one who just wants to stick his or her respective head in the sand over this >=2005 req.

Putting an approved handle tie on an MWBC I can handle, though!

So let me just ask a simple, yes or no question: If we just standardize (make it a new company policy) and say put these connectors on every single ballast we install, regardless of double-endedness or MWBCness or Hazardous Locationness[1], will we assuredly end up meeting every situation where the 05 [/08] code *requires* the local grounded and ungrounded disconnect means?

Assuming of course that OK adopts some newer NEC someday...

I realize that there may be these exceptions where we'd be putting them in and not be "required" to, but hey that seems easier than arguing with each local inspector over interpretation and arguing with all of our journeymen over interpretation. And we're talking about an extra $1.50 and 90 seconds of labor... Mark It Up and Call It Good.

Jeremy
Tulsa, Ok

[1] - "Locationness" - you can use that one if you need to. ;)
 
georgestolz said:
Where are the exposed metal pins? :-?
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on the picture you posted from the ideal web site the power plug on the right has to bare metal prongs in it..they are exsposed to be touched I did not say it would be easy, but they manage to say people stick stuff in outlets so why wouldnt someone be prone to sticking something in this plug like say a philips screw driver. they will have it in their hand while changing the ballast and what a way for some workmans comp..You know what they are going to say;Da-- Electricians cant even install plug correctly..another law suit and walla another regulation..The only way to get better pic is to take one tomarrow with my camera..
 
cschmid said:
on the picture you posted from the ideal web site the power plug on the right has to bare metal prongs in it..they are exsposed to be touched I did not say it would be easy, but they manage to say people stick stuff in outlets so why wouldnt someone be prone to sticking something in this plug like say a philips screw driver. they will have it in their hand while changing the ballast and what a way for some workmans comp..You know what they are going to say;Da-- Electricians cant even install plug correctly..another law suit and walla another regulation..The only way to get better pic is to take one tomarrow with my camera..
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"they manage to say people stick stuff in outlets"
We only worry about that with children and only on stuff they can reach [406.11].
Adults that can't keep themselves from sticking something in a hole, they get eliminated from the gene pool.
And that's the way it should be.

David
 
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Laderless,

In my opinion the intent of Exception No. 5 in the 2005 Code is to permit the wall switch to serve as the disconnecting means for luminaires that are not supplied from multiwire circuits.
 
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