$500.00 ground rod

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ceb

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Just received my news letter from the NC Elect. contractors board yesterday and noticed that they had fined several contractors $ 500.00 and a reprimand for using a 4 ft ground rod for temp services. Spend $500.00 to save $8.00 now thats good business sense.:-?
BTW October 1, 2007 Limited going up to $40,000.00 Interm. $110,000.00
 
I think it amazing that certain soil types will permit you to retrieve a ground rod of any length. It can sometimes take me an hour to get a rod in. It normally takes a backhoe to get them out, if you feel the neet to pull your temp rods. I never even try to pull them. Just collect the pole and move on.
 
ceb said:
Just received my news letter from the NC Elect. contractors board yesterday and noticed that they had fined several contractors $ 500.00 and a reprimand for using a 4 ft ground rod for temp services. Spend $500.00 to save $8.00 now thats good business sense.:-?
BTW October 1, 2007 Limited going up to $40,000.00 Interm. $110,000.00

$500, they should take his license away for a year, so he has time to catch up on the code requirements.
 
If I can put a ground rod in by hand, I'll try to take it out when I pull the temp. But if I gotta get my Hilti 905 out to drive it, it's not worth the time to try to pull it back out.
 
I have done insepctions where I began pulling the ground rod up rather simply, and thought it was a four foot rod...only to find out that it is 8! Then I have to redrive it for being wrong :(.
 
Interesting how many ground rod violations were in this newsletter. Must be the latest inspection department topic.

Ryan I take it there is no way to check the length without pulling it?

Maybe an ultrasound?
 
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About 25 years ago I put 7' of an 8' long GR in and hit solid rock. Finally after an hour of pounding with a sledge hammer I cut off about 6" and pounded some more. The POCO guy told me I only a 7' GR and refused to put the meter in. He didn't pull it, how did he know? I drove another in right beside it that I slightly bent so it would curve at the rock. Same guy came back and he put the meter in....
 
hockeyoligist2 said:
The POCO guy told me I only a 7' GR and refused to put the meter in. He didn't pull it, how did he know?

Maybe he found a piece of rod lying on the ground. :roll:
 
In Washington State cutting off a ground rod is a "serious violation" and your license can be suspended. Two electricians were fined $3,000 a few years ago.
 
chris500 said:
Also, what does this mean? BTW October 1, 2007 Limited going up to $40,000.00 Interm. $110,000.00

NC has three classes of contractor licenses; Limited, Intermediate, and Unlimited.

Up till now the Limited was allowed to perform jobs up to $25,000 and the Intermediate had a $75,000 cap, the board realizes that escalation has antiquated these limits and are increasing them.

Roger
 
480sparky said:
That's like writing "This is a stick-up" on a deposit slip from your checkbook and going out to rob a bank.

Not to mention showing your ID when asked for the large withdrawal. :D
 
I didn't leave any evidence and the end was a big mushroom! I could have lost my License? Didn't have one to lose! No permits were required in rural areas, POCO was the only one you had to satisfy. It was for a mobile home, as long as you had the septic tank permit, you were good to go. Anyone could install a service. I know better now..... so don't scold me too bad!
 
hockeyoligist2 said:
I didn't leave any evidence and the end was a big mushroom! I could have lost my License? Didn't have one to lose! No permits were required in rural areas, POCO was the only one you had to satisfy. It was for a mobile home, as long as you had the septic tank permit, you were good to go. Anyone could install a service. I know better now..... so don't scold me too bad!
I'm not ashamed to admit that I've cut off a foot or two off a couple. Saw them off and beat up the end with a claw hammer to remove the saw marks. They're useless anyhow.
 
Where the heck would you get a 4' ground rod? And to be honestest here in Massachusetts it only cost about $9 and change for a galvy ground rod and about $13 and change for a copper so why would you cheap out on something like that? But in all honesty I never seen a 4' ground rod before :grin:
 
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