# 6 ground wire has to be green, not taped.

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220/221 said:
What if the code required residential recep boxes to be blue and switch boxes to be gray? You COULD comply with it but it is a lot easier and more logical to use the same color all around.
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You'd just ignore it anyway so what would it matter. :confused: :rolleyes: :grin:

This is one of the more ridiculous arguments I have seen here and there are plenty to choose from.
If it was #10 there would be complaining, if it was #8 there would be complaining.

Complaining is what electricians do best. :D
 
220/221 said:
It's not about buying it, it's about stocking it.

On a service truck, for the few times you use it, it only makes sense to stock one roll of #6/#8. For the smaller contractors it just makes more sense to use multi purpose black conductors and mark them accordingly.
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Ok, even though I've mentioned it in two other posts, let me ask you, what's wrong with stripping it bare?


Roger
 
I for one use my sharpie to reidentify the white in cables when used as ungrounded.Never had a problem and have any color i might want.This will not work on black wire.If i am doing service work and see a black wire with green tape i would know what it is regardless of size.

Does anyone know why and what issue this started in ? Usually it is for safety but here it makes no since at all.It forces us to buy a roll of #6 and 8 in green.That is costly and even on large jobs makes us store more than we need.If it was them carrying materials to the roof and up stairs i bet they would rethink.
 
Deja Vu

Jim, even though I've mentioned it in two other posts, let me ask you, what's wrong with stripping it bare?

Roger
 
Some comments:
1. Make a proposal to change the rule.
2. Code is code, we don't like the rules we don't agree with, they are OK for someone else, but not if they cost us time and money. Mike Holt
3. This is one of two code rules that are the most violated and least known, the other is 200.6
 
roger said:
Deja Vu

Jim, even though I've mentioned it in two other posts, let me ask you, what's wrong with stripping it bare?

Roger
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Nothing if we are talking 10 feet.Would you care to do this on 200 foot runs LOL.
And if its bare you just doubled the theft rate.
 
Well Jim, all I can say is, tell your suppliers that they need to accommodate you as far as code compliant materials, have your company buy bigger trucks and gang boxes, continue to whine, learn how to strip wire faster, and submit a proposal to change the code.

I hope this helped :grin:

Roger
 
tom baker said:
Some comments:
1. Make a proposal to change the rule.
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And tell me what good would that do if it has been rejected so many times before.

I don't have an issue with it. My supplier stocks it but I buy it by the reel.

The reality is it is a ridiculous rule and it is too bad there is the unwillingness to change it.
 
roger said:
Well Jim, all I can say is, tell your suppliers that they need to accommodate you as far as code compliant materials, have your company buy bigger trucks and gang boxes, continue to whine, learn how to strip wire faster, and submit a proposal to change the code.

I hope this helped :grin:

Roger
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In the 26 years i been wiring i have not known supply houses to stock it.If it starts getting inforced here then i guess they will.This adds to extra storage and inventory dollars to them too.Bigger truck is not bad idea if we start needing them blue boxes.I will be retired long before they could change it.Be faster to get local ahj to ammend it.Or simply ignore it as a stupid rule.
 
chris kennedy said:
I'm missing your point. Are you saying theres a problem getting a cut?
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No, there is no problem getting a cut, but as 220/221 stated:

220/221 said:
On a service truck, for the few times you use it, it only makes sense to stock one roll of #6/#8.For the smaller contractors it just makes more sense to use multi purpose black conductors and mark them accordingly.

If you are ordering wire for a specific job it is easy to buy the proper colors.
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I drive a pickup (it has a camper shell so I'm not a wet wire hack, just a hack:D ) and space is limited. I also live a rural area and some of my work is miles in the country. Trips out to measure and then back to a supply house 40 miles away are expensive.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
I for one use my sharpie to reidentify the white in cables when used as ungrounded.
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Thats a different rule in Art 200 and not the same as 250.119. We are allowed to reidentify the white wire in a cable as black, since the CMP recognizes that you can't buy black and red NM. You can buy green 8 and 6 awg, and white for that matter.
 
wirebender said:
I drive a pickup (it has a camper shell so I'm not a wet wire hack, just a hack:D ) and space is limited. I also live a rural area and some of my work is miles in the country. Trips out to measure and then back to a supply house 40 miles away are expensive.
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The first part is not the NEC's problem.

As for the second part, it is probably more expensive to redo a violation.
 
220/221 said:
It's not about buying it, it's about stocking it.

On a service truck, for the few times you use it, it only makes sense to stock one roll of #6/#8. For the smaller contractors it just makes more sense to use multi purpose black conductors and mark them accordingly.
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We've seen your trucks...plenty of room for a roll of green 36.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
.I will be retired long before they could change it.Be faster to get local ahj to ammend it.Or simply ignore it as a stupid rule.
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Jim, I'll be e-mailing Hillsborough, Highlands, Hardee, DeSoto, Pinellas, Polk, and the cities in these counties so you won't feel left out before your retirement. :grin:

Let me know if I need to include Manatee or some other county you may work in. :wink:

Roger
 
We've seen your trucks...plenty of room for a roll of green 36.
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And white #6 and Green #8 and white #8....

It doesn't snow here so I don't need traction. One roll of each is PLENTY ;)


Wait a minute....can you tape white or is this rule only applied to grounding conductors?
 
220/221 said:
And white #6 and Green #8 and white #8....

It doesn't snow here so I don't need traction. One roll of each is PLENTY ;)


Wait a minute....can you tape white or is this rule only applied to grounding conductors?
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Read 200.6 and 200.7

Roger
 
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