680.26(c)(3) 2005

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chris kennedy

chris kennedy

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I have not done a pool in years. I have one that will have an interlocking paver brick deck. Looking at 680.26(C)(3) brings these questions to mind.

1) I bid this pool for the flat-work deck that was speced. Reading b. grid structure, I'm looking at a pile of material I didn't figure for. How can I make the 12" squares required and reduce the amount of connectors and 8 bare?

2) Reading c. securing, how do you do this and how deep are you allowed to put this thing?

Here is a pic FWIW.

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Just so my pictures remain consistent, if you look at the back corner of the pool, is that...

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Yup, thats Al in a ditch on Saturday morning.:D
 
The one I did I just rolled out the #8 --- Say your grid needs to be 50' long. Roll the #8 50' then turn it 12" and come back the 50' and repeat. When you get the width you want just turn the opposite direction and do the same.

They also sell pre-made grids . I don't know the cost

Hi, Al-- I feel like I know him
 
Dennis Alwon said:
The one I did I just rolled out the #8 --- Say your grid needs to be 50' long. Roll the #8 50' then turn it 12" and come back the 50' and repeat. When you get the width you want just turn the opposite direction and do the same.
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Then you split bolt everywhere they cross?

walkerj said:
I hope you at least buy the man lunch every once in a while
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We bring our lunches to work. Who do you think dug the other half of that ditch?:roll:
 
Dennis Alwon said:
No, why would I do that? No split bolts. It is one continuous piece.
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680.26(C)(3)(a.) Conductors shall be bonded to each other at all points of crossing. Connections shall be made as required by 680.26(D)

(b.) The equipotential bonding grid shall be arranged in a 12in by 12in network of conductors...

I read that as you need a pile of split bolts and time.
 
chris kennedy said:
680.26(C)(3)(a.) Conductors shall be bonded to each other at all points of crossing. Connections shall be made as required by 680.26(D)

(b.) The equipotential bonding grid shall be arranged in a 12in by 12in network of conductors...

I read that as you need a pile of split bolts and time.
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Opps-- I did a hot tub with the grid but the builder put in the grid at my direction-- I guess everyone missed that point. I wonder why it needs to be bonded at every junction. If I had to do that I would by the mats.

Fortunately, the pool companies do the bonding in this area. We come in and just wire to the pumps and the stub ups from the lights.
 
?During construction of pool, a temporary enclosure shall sufficiently prevent any access to the pool by persons not engaged in the installation or construction of the pool
?May consist of: temporary fence, permanent fence, wall of permanent structure, any other structure or combination of foregoing but not less than 4 feet high
?Temporary enclosure must be replaced by permanent enclosure
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In New York, we must provide safety measures during construction so as to minimize the potential for accidents after the work crew goes home. A barrier so the neighborhood kids don't fall in. :smile:​
 
wbalsam1 said:
?During construction of pool, a temporary enclosure shall sufficiently prevent any access to the pool by persons not engaged in the installation or construction of the pool
?May consist of: temporary fence, permanent fence, wall of permanent structure, any other structure or combination of foregoing but not less than 4 feet high
?Temporary enclosure must be replaced by permanent enclosure
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In New York, we must provide safety measures during construction so as to minimize the potential for accidents after the work crew goes home. A barrier so the neighborhood kids don't fall in. :smile:​
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There is an orange fence around this. The coping guys were here and put the fence back up when they left.
 
Chris, Is there a bonding grid underneath the pool? Also be sure
to read carefully the bonding and grounding requirements for
pool lights. Any that I have done have all had concrete decks
around them so I bonded to the rebar which itself was set in
the cement. I'm not sure how you would handle the grid underneath
pavers. Good question though. I would like to attend a class that
dealt soley with pools.

Ed
 
Ed Carr said:
Chris, Is there a bonding grid underneath the pool? Also be sure
to read carefully the bonding and grounding requirements for
pool lights. Any that I have done have all had concrete decks
around them so I bonded to the rebar which itself was set in
the cement. I'm not sure how you would handle the grid underneath
pavers. Good question though. I would like to attend a class that
dealt soley with pools.

Ed
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Thanks Ed, I have the pool steel and light nitch inspections already. I will pick up those #8's when I bond the deck.
 
chris kennedy said:
Thanks Ed, I have the pool steel and light nitch inspections already. I will pick up those #8's when I bond the deck.
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I'm on vacation in St Augistine and don't have access the the Fla regs, but all you need to do is let the paver guys grade the sand. Install a #8 around the pool 8" deep,12 to 18 inches from the waters edge. Connect this in 4 places to the pool steel along with the tails for the ladders and nitch. Don't forget the metal windows and doors if within 5' of the pool.
 
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