boboelectric
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why could'nt i use an AFCI device in a hallway outlet feeding bedroom outlets?
arcfault breakers
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Re: arcfault breakers
(a) I don't believe you will find a "arc-fault device" on the market yet other than a breaker.
(b) a little more controverisal (not that any such things happen here)..210.12 says " branch circuits ..shall be protected by listed arc-fault"..some argue, since the branch circuit originates at the overcurrent protection device, the arc-fault must be the overcurrent device.
(a) I don't believe you will find a "arc-fault device" on the market yet other than a breaker.
(b) a little more controverisal (not that any such things happen here)..210.12 says " branch circuits ..shall be protected by listed arc-fault"..some argue, since the branch circuit originates at the overcurrent protection device, the arc-fault must be the overcurrent device.
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Re: arcfault breakers
But you can include non-bedroom outlets on the AFCI bedroom circuits. Just be sure all 15 and 20 amp 120V branch circuits supplying outlets in bedrooms are AFCI protected.
So, you can hit a hallway outlet on your way to the bedroom, no foul.
But you can include non-bedroom outlets on the AFCI bedroom circuits. Just be sure all 15 and 20 amp 120V branch circuits supplying outlets in bedrooms are AFCI protected.
So, you can hit a hallway outlet on your way to the bedroom, no foul.
rcarroll
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Re: arcfault breakers
Read the exception to 210.12 in the 05 NEC.The way I read it is, when the AFI device does become available, it will have to be installed within 6' of the panel feeding the circuit.
Read the exception to 210.12 in the 05 NEC.The way I read it is, when the AFI device does become available, it will have to be installed within 6' of the panel feeding the circuit.
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Re: arcfault breakers
If there were a device that you could install at the first outlet in a circuit, and that would AFCI-protect the downstream outlets (like you can do now with GFCI receptacles), you could put it the hallway, and protect the bedroom outlets downstream. If it is not within 6 feet of the panel, then you would need to put the conductors from the panel to this first outlet in metal raceway, or use a cable with a metallic sheath.
If there were a device that you could install at the first outlet in a circuit, and that would AFCI-protect the downstream outlets (like you can do now with GFCI receptacles), you could put it the hallway, and protect the bedroom outlets downstream. If it is not within 6 feet of the panel, then you would need to put the conductors from the panel to this first outlet in metal raceway, or use a cable with a metallic sheath.
rcarroll
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Re: arcfault breakers
Correct me if i'm wrong, & I have no doubt. But, the exception says the device shall be in compliance with a & b. Ron
Correct me if i'm wrong, & I have no doubt. But, the exception says the device shall be in compliance with a & b. Ron
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Re: arcfault breakers
There's a difference between "and" and "or"????
There's a difference between "and" and "or"????
LarryFine
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Re: arcfault breakers
Don't worry, Charlie, we still love ya!
Don't worry, Charlie, we still love ya!
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