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StreamlineGT

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White in left panel, two reds in right panel on 'A' phase. Why 40 circuit panels?

why not? not a huge price difference. There will be 58 circuits, so why only have 64 available (which would be two 32 circuit panels) and 6 spare spaces. I see where you get your name from......lol.
 

RUWired

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Let the FLAMING BEGIN!!!

I did'nt want to be the first to flame, but i do have a few questions.
1, i don't see a main bonding jumper in the ATS(250.24(B). If it is a screw it's gotta be a green screw( 250.28).If you use a wire for the main bonding jumper, you can keep the GEC in the equipment ground bar.Is the picture not complete yet??

2, I don't see a sticker that says service disconnect(230.70(A)3(B). Is it on the interior cover of the ATS??

That is all, nice job!!!!!
 

StreamlineGT

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I did'nt want to be the first to flame, but i do have a few questions.
1, i don't see a main bonding jumper in the ATS(250.24(B). If it is a screw it's gotta be a green screw( 250.28).If you use a wire for the main bonding jumper, you can keep the GEC in the equipment ground bar.Is the picture not complete yet??

The bonding jumper is a strap from the neutral bar to the can, it's there, and is installed at the factory.

2, I don't see a sticker that says service disconnect(230.70(A)3(B). Is it on the interior cover of the ATS??

The fine print that you (or anyone else including me) cannot read says that the service disconnect is inside.
 

wireguru

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maybe you can see it here.... BTW, the sticker is crooked, what ever happened to the screen printed covers on the Generac switches?

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the mounting screws are pretty close to the top of the ATS, which seems like its at the same elevation as that DWV line. Did you manage to use long screws and hit the pipe? :D
 

StreamlineGT

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the mounting screws are pretty close to the top of the ATS, which seems like its at the same elevation as that DWV line. Did you manage to use long screws and hit the pipe? :D

Haha, I wish! That pipe was not supposed to be there, but poor planning on his part required it, and he was there first, thus needing the framed wall. That would have been sufficient payback, but coming out of my pocket in the end.
 

wireguru

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Haha, I wish! That pipe was not supposed to be there, but poor planning on his part required it, and he was there first, thus needing the framed wall. That would have been sufficient payback, but coming out of my pocket in the end.

I think the toilet paper accumulating on a drywall screw penetrating that pipe 1/3 the way across would take longer than your warranty to finally clog the pipe -you have to put it in just right....
 

LarryFine

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The bonding jumper is a strap from the neutral bar to the can, it's there, and is installed at the factory.
Methinks the enclosure is not adequate to bond the neutral and the EGC's.

I believe you need a conductor, etc., as the MBJ. Read 250.24 and 250.28.

Added: Looking closer, the neutral is mounted on the inner panel, too.
 
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mxslick

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Big thumbs up form here, the workmanship in the panels and transfer switch is top notch!!

I agree the Generac decal being crooked looks really tacky.. maybe they'll send you one to replace it, especially if you show them this thread. :D
 

infinity

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Methinks the enclosure is not adequate to bond the neutral and the EGC's.

I believe you need a conductor, etc., as the MBJ. Read 250.24 and 250.28.

Added: Looking closer, the neutral is mounted on the inner panel, too.


Wouldn't a service rated switch already have the neutral bonded from the factory?
 

LawnGuyLandSparky

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All of the odd #'rd circuits should enter the panels on the left, while the even #'rd circuits kept to the right. This way, only noodles crossover the top of the can, and not that rats-nest of conductors you got going on in there...

















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StreamlineGT

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Very professional job (that's the highest compliment I give!)

Are there only 2 AFCI's, or do you have a sub-panel somewhere?

Never mind, I see the AFCI's in the first panel (with white button's right). The two red buttons in the other panel must be GFI's, right?

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don_resqcapt19

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:D

I am out of gas......:D

Seriously it is beautiful work. There is hope yet....:smile:

(Sometimes I get so discouraged by shoddy work that seem to be the norm, not the exception.)

Some people would say that appearence does not necessarily mean that all the connections are tight, all the circuits are tested, etc. IMO it is a bogus argument, since in thsi case the asthetic apperence also reveal that the person know what he was doing and WHY he was doing it, it is not nice looking only for the sake of appearence, but it reflects on the craftsmans skill AND care.
I agree that it looks very good and as far as the craftmanship, I know that when I fill in for the local inspector I will take a lot closer look at a sloppy job than one that looks like this. When a craftsman installs a project that looks like this it is not likely that you would find much of anything to red tag. When the job is sloppy, you often find a lot of issues, not always, but often.
 
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