Assign my Electrical License to another company

[cadpoint]

The dictionary answer

The dictionary answer

Main Entry: 1li?cense Variant(s): or li?cence \ˈlī-sən(t)s\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French licence, from Latin licentia, from licent-, licens, present participle of licēre to be permitted Date: 14th century 1 a: permission to act b: freedom of action2 a: a permission granted by competent authority to engage in a business or occupation or in an activity otherwise unlawful b: a document, plate, or tag evidencing a license granted c: a grant by the holder of a copyright or patent to another of any of the rights embodied in the copyright or patent short of an assignment of all rights3 a: freedom that allows or is used with irresponsibility b: disregard for standards of personal conduct : licentiousness4: deviation from fact, form, or rule by an artist or writer for the sake of the effect gained

Via

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/license

OR

Princeton dictionary

Key: "S:" = Show Synset (semantic) relations, "W:" = Show Word (lexical) relations
Noun

• S: license, licence, permit (a legal document giving official permission to do something)
• S: license, licence (freedom to deviate deliberately from normally applicable rules or practices (especially in behavior or speech))
• S: license, licence (excessive freedom; lack of due restraint) "when liberty becomes license dictatorship is near"- Will Durant; "the intolerable license with which the newspapers break...the rules of decorum"- Edmund Burke
• S: license, permission, permit (the act of giving a formal (usually written) authorization)

Verb

• S: (v) license, licence, certify (authorize officially) "I am licensed to practice law in this state"

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[George Stolz]

Cad,

point |point|
noun
4. a single item or detail in an extended discussion, list, or text : you ignore a number of important points.
• an argument or idea put forward by a person in discussion : he made the point that economic regulation involves controls on pricing.
• an interesting or convincing idea : you must admit he does have a point.
• (usu. the point) the significant or essential element of what is intended or being discussed : it took her a long time to come to the point.
• [in sing. ] [usu. with negative or in questions ] advantage or purpose that can be gained from doing something : there was no point in denying the truth | what's the point of having things I don't need?
• relevance or effectiveness.
• a distinctive feature or characteristic, typically a good one, of a person or thing : he has his good points.

What's your point?

 

[cadpoint]

My Point is that if I went that far in my Life I think I'd know what was involved, can I put a punch line now.

I'm with others and agree what a license is or is not, but thanks for asking, I frankly thought I'd just state it...

 

[cschmid]

You know you act like it is a easy thing andd yet it is. I you hire a journeyman you expect him to carry a license. do you pay him more? do you pay his continuing ed? you got the idea. If a company hires you and part of thr deal is using your license as the responsible master of record you agree on a price and go to work. it is that simple. :smile:

 

[neutral]

You know you act like it is a easy thing andd yet it is. I you hire a journeyman you expect him to carry a license. do you pay him more? do you pay his continuing ed? you got the idea. If a company hires you and part of thr deal is using your license as the responsible master of record you agree on a price and go to work. it is that simple. :smile:

What kind of license would a journeyman have to carry?

 

[cparrott1984]

Main Entry: 1li?cense Variant(s): or li?cence \ˈlī-sən(t)s\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French licence, from Latin licentia, from licent-, licens, present participle of licēre to be permitted Date: 14th century 1 a: permission to act b: freedom of action2 a: a permission granted by competent authority to engage in a business or occupation or in an activity otherwise unlawful b: a document, plate, or tag evidencing a license granted c: a grant by the holder of a copyright or patent to another of any of the rights embodied in the copyright or patent short of an assignment of all rights3 a: freedom that allows or is used with irresponsibility b: disregard for standards of personal conduct : licentiousness4: deviation from fact, form, or rule by an artist or writer for the sake of the effect gained

Via

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/license

OR

Princeton dictionary

Key: "S:" = Show Synset (semantic) relations, "W:" = Show Word (lexical) relations
Noun

• S: license, licence, permit (a legal document giving official permission to do something)
• S: license, licence (freedom to deviate deliberately from normally applicable rules or practices (especially in behavior or speech))
• S: license, licence (excessive freedom; lack of due restraint) "when liberty becomes license dictatorship is near"- Will Durant; "the intolerable license with which the newspapers break...the rules of decorum"- Edmund Burke
• S: license, permission, permit (the act of giving a formal (usually written) authorization)

Verb

• S: (v) license, licence, certify (authorize officially) "I am licensed to practice law in this state"

WordNet home page

Cad..... lol

 

[cparrott1984]

Thanks!

Thanks!

Everyone.. I want to thank you all and I value each and everyones opinion and information.

Again.. Thanks... and I can't wait to hear more from others.

I have lunch with the guy to talk about our deal on Tuesday or Wednesday. I will let everyone know what happens and give updates!

 

[satcom]

how do you figure that doing something that is legal and helps all the parties directly involved is a bad thing?

there is a huge difference between satisfying a government edict by offering a level of supervision to already trained, competent, and experienced people; and enabling incompetent and dangerous work to be performed. Nothing in his post indicated the OP thought the work being done by these people already was somehow deficient, or that he would encourage deficient work.

In many states it is illegal to loan or transfer a license for consideration, he may be in a state where there is no license required, or no laws to prevent it, but it all comes down to the responsible party, which is usually the license holder, when all goes wrong, he it the one that pays in the end.

 

[LarryFine]

Maybe if I write it in the contract for the purpose if I were to lose my electrical license because of their negligence I would be taken care of in some way?

How would you enforce that? Courts cannot be used to enforce illegal contracts.

 

[cparrott1984]

How would you enforce that? Courts cannot be used to enforce illegal contracts.

What I am doing is NOT illegal in my state.

 

[MarkyMarkNC]

From all the info the OP has stated here, it seems he is satisfying both the letter and intent of the law. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[satcom]

From all the info the OP has stated here, it seems he is satisfying both the letter and intent of the law. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

And that will exempt his liability?

 

[petersonra]

And that will exempt his liability?

no. but he can buy insurance to cover it.

btw, anyone who has been issued a license to do anything by a government agency probably should have liability insurance. even if you work for someone else.

 

[active1]

I'm not voting in your poll, because it doesn't have a "None of the Above" option. Regardless of whether this practice is legal in your state(s) and for you type(s) of licenses, I consider it to be a breech of professional ethics. My suggestion is that if they want your license, you should require them to hire you full time.

I was thinking the same for me. No renting papers no vote.

Your Quote: I hate when I see people take shortcuts!.

Why qualified people would concider this is beyond me. So some people can sit at home and make $500 a month while some Bozo does their work?

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

This contract you want to enter into sounds great for yourself, especially with the present economy we are in.

I can tell you that you may be heading to a disaster.

For a company of this size and multiple states, you HAVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY.

There is no other alternative. We can all tell you this and that, it means nothing.

Hire an attorney and make sure you get a clause in writing that they pay for the attorney.

If you do not do this, it will only be your fault when the it hits the fan.

The attorney should be a contract attorney, not a friend you know who is an attorney.

Good luck

 

[active1]

What if I monitor their work? They will be hiring me but on a part time bases... What is so bad about what I am doing?

Engineer's do this sort of thing all the time...

It is only legal if your there on site when the work is being done. You might want to look at the state laws for MD:

?6–605.
A licensed master electrician or a person to whom a master electrician assigns a local license may employ an individual who is not a licensed master electrician under this title to provide electrical services if the individual provides the services only while under the supervision and control of a licensed master electrician.

?6–316.
(a) Subject to the hearing provisions of ? 6-317 of this subtitle, the State Board may deny a State license to any applicant, reprimand any State licensee, or suspend or revoke a State license if the applicant or State licensee:

(2) fraudulently or deceptively uses a State license;
(3) transfers the authority granted by a State license to another person;
(7) aids or abets a person to evade a provision of this title;
(9) fails in a material respect to comply with a provision of this title;
(10) fails to train and control adequately a person who, while under the supervision of the State licensee, sells or estimates electrical work;
(12) fails to maintain the general liability and property damage insurance required under ? 6-604 of this title.
(b) Allowing a State license to be used by another person is, in a disciplinary proceeding under this section, prima facie evidence that a State licensee transferred the authority granted by a State license to another person.

When a county or municipal corporation that requires a local license initiates a disciplinary action against a licensed master electrician, the county or municipal corporation shall report the disciplinary action to the State Board within 30 days of commencement.

http://www.dllr.state.md.us/license/master_elec/elecreq.htm

 

[JohnJ0906]

It is only legal if your there on site when the work is being done.

That's not true. He doesn't have to be on site. He does have to supervise.

If the Master had to be on site, than no company could have more than 1 job at a time.

 

[luckyshadow]

I do believe you must be an employee, at the minimum, of the company you assign your license to. I mean a FULL time employee. The state frowns on guys who go on the books as a "part time" employee just to "rent" their license!

I Do STRONGLY suggest that you FIRST contact State of Maryland Department of licensing & Regulation, State Board of Master Electricians -500 N. Calvert Street Baltimore
To get the true facts before proceeding in anything that could result in you having your license revoked.

If they want your license - they should want you as a full time employee or partner!
A company that does that much business going fishing for a license..... sounds fishy.

 

[donselectric]

yeah you _ _ore.......

















just kidding....

 

[MarkyMarkNC]

And that will exempt his liability?

No. If there is a way to be exempt from all liability in a company though I'd sure like to know I'd save all kinds of money in insurance!