Bathroom GFCI protection

[celtic]

You people are totally killing me. :grin::grin::grin:

Thank you, thank you very much. I'm here 'til Thursday. Try the veal.

 

[augie47]

I could see different inspectors looking at this different, but IMHO it is not a bathroom and it does not need to be GFCI protected. Would I GFCI protect it? Absolutely, it is not worth reinspection fees.

I hate you base it on that how about: "Since there might be some question about the safety involved, I'd prefer not to put anyone at risk amd install a GFCI"

 

[C3PO]

I hate you base it on that how about: "Since there might be some question about the safety involved, I'd prefer not to put anyone at risk and install a GFCI"

Uh, yes that is exactly what I meant to say.

 

[monkey]

How much is the cost of a GFI compared to having to come back and install one after getting red-tagged for it?

Besides, the NEC is a minimum, not a mandate. Why not just put one in and sleep well tonight?

Never said I wasn't going to.............this is about a "di$cu$$ion" between workers about the intent of the code.

 

[augie47]

"intent" I'd say GFCI but I have not reat the ROCs
"exact wording"... debatable, as shown here.

 

[electricguy61]

I'm not sure where the outlet would reside or what it's for, but if it's being installed for an electronic bidet', many manufactures' requires it be a GFCI.

 

[hillbilly]

I'm not sure where the outlet would reside or what it's for, but if it's being installed for an electronic bidet', many manufactures' requires it be a GFCI.

That doesn't sound very comfortable.:smile:

steve

 

[cowboyjwc]

As someone said, if it was simply a room with a toilet in it then I would say no, it doesn't meet the definition of a bathroom. Now if it's a room with a toilet in it like we see in larger bathrooms then I would say yes since it's in the "area".

My question would be, why would you need a recept. in there anyways?

 

[electricguy61]

As someone said, if it was simply a room with a toilet in it then I would say no, it doesn't meet the definition of a bathroom. Now if it's a room with a toilet in it like we see in larger bathrooms then I would say yes since it's in the "area".

My question would be, why would you need a recept. in there anyways?

electronic bidet :http://www.brondell.com/products/Swash800.php

 

[cowboyjwc]

electronic bidet :http://www.brondell.com/products/Swash800.php

My wife already thinks I spend to much time in the bathroom.

 

[physis]

I have yet to see an area with a toilet w/o a sink.

Then you haven't seen any "quasi-bathrooms". :grin:

 

[charlie b]

The reason we provide GFCI protection for a bathroom receptacle has to do with the possibility of dropping a hair dryer (or other plug in item) into the sink. If there is no sink, where is the danger of electrocution? I think that is why the NEC definition of bathroom requires the presence of a basin (sink).

 

[electricmanscott]

The reason we provide GFCI protection for a bathroom receptacle has to do with the possibility of dropping a hair dryer (or other plug in item) into the sink. If there is no sink, where is the danger of electrocution? I think that is why the NEC definition of bathroom requires the presence of a basin (sink).

Come on Charlie, you know better than to argue a point with facts. :wink:

 

[physis]

The reason we provide GFCI protection for a bathroom receptacle has to do with the possibility of dropping a hair dryer (or other plug in item) into the sink. If there is no sink, where is the danger of electrocution? I think that is why the NEC definition of bathroom requires the presence of a basin (sink).

I dunno, bathtub or shower?

But it is true that the emphasis is on basin.

Then again, you can hang a chandalere (or however it's spelled) over a bath tub.

Let me ask a rather straight forward question.

How many people are eltricuted in a sink each year? Edit, I had to add this :grin:

How many people are electricuted in a bath tub.

 

[electricguy61]

The reason we provide GFCI protection for a bathroom receptacle has to do with the possibility of dropping a hair dryer (or other plug in item) into the sink. If there is no sink, where is the danger of electrocution? I think that is why the NEC definition of bathroom requires the presence of a basin (sink).

toilet + electricity= possible problems

I had shoulder surgery a couple of years ago, and the electric bidet was a real help (beats calling in your wife to help)

 

[charlie b]

Come on Charlie, you know better than to argue a point with facts. :wink:

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. :wink:

 

[physis]

And how many people are electricuted in toilets, I'm terribly sorry, but :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

This is the first "five grin post" I have ever made.

 

[electricguy61]

And how many people are electricuted in toilets, I'm terribly sorry,

This is the first "five grin post" I have ever made.

Not many, but what a horrible way to go !

 

[augie47]

never underestimate the ingeniuty of the human mind. Cold bathroom..1200 watt portable heater, avaialble outlet in toilet room..cord under door, heater next to tub...problem sloved.!

 

[bhalp]

i can't imagine why someone would need a receptacle in a room with just a toilet unless it has at least a mirror. I'd put a gfci in anyway because whatever they're plugging in they should have better protection.