Boom

[chris kennedy]

Went to a service call today. The full size 2 pole in positions 5 and 7 was tripped. Feeds a small sub-panel below this one. I took it out to inspect the breaker and buss. All looked OK so I began to put it back. As I pushed it in the insulator between C and B buss failed and BOOM, out go the lights. I took a piece of THHN insulation from a 350 and slipped it between the busses to get the business open for today.

Also, that black 12 connected to the neutral bar, that used to be a neutral.:roll:

 

[480sparky]

Is this one of those General D or Square Electric panels I keep hearing about?

I don't see a main, so this must be a subpanel itself. Noodle bar isn't bonded, so where do all the green wires go?????

 

[peter d]

Is this one of those General D or Square Electric panels I keep hearing about?

I think it's a Cutler Murray. Those seem to be pretty common in my area.

 

[480sparky]

I think it's a Cutler Murray. Those seem to be pretty common in my area.

You sure it's not a Federal Zinsco or Bulldog Adams?

 

[chris kennedy]

Is this one of those General D or Square Electric panels I keep hearing about?

It is. I'm going to replace it with a Siemens panel with Siemens breakers. Thats how I roll.:roll:

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Glad you didn't get hurt. I worked in a pool room where there was a panel for the pumps. The chlorine had corroded much of the cover. I was helping a fellow EC who was adding a DP breaker to the panel. The easiest spot to install the breaker was down at the bottom. I noticed the buss was corroded so I installed it at the top of the panel. My friend, who has poor vision, went to hook it up but didn't like where I installed it so he moved it. I was outside and I heard this bang and I immediately realized what happened. My friend came running out and nearly jumped in the pool because his hand got burned so badly. He was very fortunate.

 

[augie47]

you left out the part about changing pants

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Noodle bar isn't bonded, so where do all the green wires go?????

I think they are on the left side you just can't see the ground bar.

 

[480sparky]

I think they are on the left side you just can't see the ground bar.

You mean the part of the panel that's buried?

I see a green wire in the bottom right that goes up and just disappears.......

 

[chris kennedy]

You mean the part of the panel that's buried?

It is, cover only had two screws on the right side, can't get to the left side. Our company installed this in 81.

 

[peter d]

Our company installed this in 81.

Did they even have electricity back in 1981? :-?

 

[480sparky]

......... Our company installed this in 81.

So, will this be considered warranty work? :grin:

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Our company installed this in 81.

Is this why Al is in the ditch now?

 

[480sparky]

.......Our company installed this in 81.

1981 or 1881?

 

[chris kennedy]

Did they even have electricity back in 1981? :-?

How would I know, I was 21. I was a farmer then.(Sowing oats)

So, will this be considered warranty work? :grin:

Is this why Al is in the ditch now?

1981 or 1881?

You guys are killing my 'Safety thread'.

 

[daleuger]

you left out the part about changing pants

I think that would be a given.

 

[480sparky]

....You guys are killing my 'Safety thread'.

You would expect nothing less from us.

You love it, anyway. Face it.... you know you do! :grin:

 

[LittleD]

How's this for a BOOM !

Thank God no one was hurt! I wasn't in the yard that day but 2 of my co-workers were. Had it been 10minutes later, they would have been standing right by that tank!!!!

See the transformer in the background? That blew last year!

I swear, I'm bringing in some holy water to sprinkle around that yard!

 

[iaov]

No one has asked about what PPE you were wearing.(I'm certain this is a mere oversight and not an indication of what a bunch of heartless SOB's we all are!) Glad you were not hurt.A very good reminder to us all that we need to be carefull every single moment!!And I think I speak for all us when I say I am very happy to hear Al wasn't hurt!!