BTUs of 1 KW

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Besoeker said:
HP (should it be capital or lower case?) is a unit of power, not energy. Horse power you see.


Whatever floats your boat.......:p




A couple of points. SI is a system of units. Not decimals. Common misconception, that one. Yes, multiples and sub-multiples of basic units are in orders of tens. But that's not new. You have kVA or MVA. And mA. And kV. All of which use decimal orders of magnitude. And base SI units. You can't escape it!! You already enmeshed!!

And, if you use a calculator, you have to use those pesky decimals anyway!

Ever so slightly more seriously, SI is international and has much to merit it. As an example, there is one unit for length/distance. The metre. I don't need to know or remember, that there are 63,360 inches in a mile or that an acre is 4,840 square yards. That I do has more to do with me being anally retentive than it being of any practical use to me. Or you either, I'd guess.
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I'm being tongue in cheek about metric. I use it a lot. I even favor 1/10th of feet and inches and kiloFeet when dealing with "English" measures.

We in America have two types of triangular scaling rules, architects and engineers, fractions and 10-based.

My wife lived in Germany for 13 years and I for 2. We have all kinds of metric measures in the kitchen and a few appliances for the 250V 60Hz outlets I installed. Also most mechanics tool I have are both English and Metric measure. [Even a "3/8th inch" metric socket set from Germany.]
 
jim dungar said:
More than 100 years ago.

They were a charter member of the treaty to standardize the "meter", way back around 1875.
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Then maybe, just maybe, it's time to make SI the official standard units?

I know I've gently nagged, niggled, poked, and jested about this a few times.
I'm an old codger. I've used, and probably abused, both Imperial and SI.
Dirtied my hands from both.

But SI is a good system.
My pitch to you guys is twofold.
It is simpler.
The rest of the world has adopted as the official system.

You need to buy into it! And give me my 10%!

Wandering off topic a wee bit....well maybe a big bit but with some relevance.

A good many people from elsewhere and even some Americans themselves are considered to be insular.
My sweet wife wouldn't disagree with that a bit. She's from GA. A southern belle. I captured her and snatched her away to this dreary island. Not a lot of resistance as I recall........
We have discussed this from time to time." Why travel the world when we have everything here?" A good point. Spectacular scenery, mountains, plains, mighty rivers, a huge range of wild life, sports, skiing...........stuff. Everything.
No disagreement - for the most part.

Other than a company jolly, she had not been out of the country and even then, not out her comfort zone.
The majority of her family had not and have not been out of the country. So insular might be neither inaccurate nor inappropriate.
I don't mean that disrespectfully. It's how it is.

In the nature of what I do, world travel has featured quite a bit. Seen things, experienced different cultures, had to learn, accept. End up in Hong Kong looking for dinner at 3 am and you eat what's offered.

Since we married, Mrs B and I have been to a few different countries. France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Turkey, Malta, Morocco................

Life I suppose.
 
Slowly, but not surely

Slowly, but not surely

Metric has been official in the US for decades. You can use to measure things you sell, you can use it in RFPs and contracts and if you want to sell to the military you may be mandated in several instances.

It's on all our speedometers. It's taught in schools. Vehicles seem to be moving toward, or are already there in terms of fasteners.

It still doesn't dominate in the consumer market place, nor in construction. Of course, we have 2x4's that aren't, our 4x8 sheets of plywood are just about that, less a fraction for expansion.

Land survey is still English measure, but the legal inch is now precisely 2.54cm, and hence all the measures based on the inch are directly, and easily converted to metric.

US Government maps all show metric scales.
 
Besoeker said:
A conversion you would have no need to do if you went SI.....
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We are on SI. It is one of several accepted methods.

It appears you want us to abolish (prohibit?) the use of other units, as happened to the UK just fairly recently (back in 2000).
 
Getting back for a moment to BTUs, the ratings of heating and cooling equipment is properly done in BTU/hour and tons/hour. You will actually see the former on rating plates although it is commonly left out in speech or casual references.
For cooling, on the other hand, we tend to just say tons, even though it incorrect.

Tapatalk!
 
jim dungar said:
We are on SI. It is one of several accepted methods.

It appears you want us to abolish (prohibit?) the use of other units, as happened to the UK just fairly recently (back in 2000).
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Again, a couple or three points.
I have no wish to abolish any units of measure.
I was and am totally against mandatory changes.
If a supplier wants to supply in pints and the customer wants to buy in pints, that's a matter between buyer and seller. As it should be.
And that's what happens all over the UK in pubs.

So no, UK does not prohibit other units.
Road signs are in miles. Speed limits in miles per hour.

But SI is the standard and, for engineering, and most other measurements, makes sense.
 
Besoeker said:
If a supplier wants to supply in pints and the customer wants to buy in pints, that's a matter between buyer and seller. As it should be.
And that's what happens all over the UK in pubs.
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My mistake.:ashamed1:

According to Scottish Archive Network
http://www.scan.org.uk/measures/background.asp
"Since 1995 most pre-packaged goods have been sold in metric units, and from 1 January 2000 it has been illegal to sell loose products (such as vegetables, fruit, cheese, etc) by pounds, ounces, pints or gallons (with the exception of draught beer, which is still sold in pints)."
 
jim dungar said:
My mistake.:ashamed1:
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Not a problem. I'm old enough to have been through the baptism of Imperial, CGS, MKS, and SI.
A lot of things here, packaged goods, are dual marked. And it brings up some oddities. I buy milk at a local convenience store. The quantity stated on the container is 2.272 litres. Why such an odd number? Well, it's actually four pints

Your link mentions the illegality of selling loose goods by the pound. It's an entirely valid point and there was a lot of noise about it here. And disinformation.
This from the BBC in 2004:

Mr Thoburn was convicted for selling goods only in imperial measures in 2001 and became known as the Metric Martyr.
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It is, at best, misleading. Steve Thorburn's conviction was for for using uncalibrated measuring scales. Traders have to use scales stamped as calibrated by the Trading Standards Authority.
Often scales are dual marked. We can buy a pound of beef from our local butcher. But it will be priced in ?/kg.

On dual marking, here's a photograph I took in my back yard a couple or so years ago...



The 5 on the top half of the steel tape is 15cm. The 5 on the bottom is 5 inches. Yes, we still use feet and inches.

The insect is a Chafer. Evidently fairly common here although I'd never seen one hence piqued my curiosity - sufficiently to set up the pic and lie on the ground to take it. At my advanced age, that is little short of an acrobatic feat.
 
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