CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION - Comments, Geary Pacific Corporation

[mtnelect]

I appreciate the opportunity to provide my comments regarding the California Energy Commission’s (CEC) request for information (RFI) regarding Energy Data Collection. This initiative, if implemented, would directly impact my business in a negative way.

 

[brycenesbitt]

I my area and from what I see about half the work is done without permits.
The permit system is a complete mess, and so painful, combined with low bidders winning without permits.....

 

[ramsy]

half the work is done without permits.

Half my volume is abatement of remodel hazards.

The permit system is a complete mess, and so painful,.

Most of my out-of-town permits are shut down, until escalated to building officials, or a formal complaint, with personnel departments.

I have come to expect out-of-town building department staff to willfully obstruct my new face, or send me in circles, until they are legally forced to comply with the law.

Permits are the same with each new town, they must be beaten into submission.

 

[ramsy]

low bidders win.. without permits.....

Which perpetuates remodel hazards, for future abatement by sharp service experts.

Recalcitrant customers can be motivated to abate wiring hazards, by installing the missing AFCI, which forcing them to constantly push the reset button.

 

[ggunn]

Half my volume is abatement of remodel hazards.

Most of my out-of-town permits are shut down, until escalated to building officials, or a formal complaint, with personnel departments.

I have come to expect out-of-town building department staff to willfully obstruct my new face, or send me in circles, until they are legally forced to comply with the law.

Permits are the same with each new town, they must be beaten into submission.

Low level (read: petty) bureaucrats' only source of power is to say "no".

 

[ramsy]

Low level (read: petty) bureaucrats' only source of power is to say "no".

It’s human nature to have sympathy for your friends, and local shops supporting your family, or employing your relatives.

In California, local EC’s constantly cry in their beer, over losing work to general contractor labor shops, or other enterprising servitude, not subject to apprenticeships, journeyman certs, or regulatory enforcement.

 

[ggunn]

It’s human nature to have sympathy for your friends, and local shops supporting your family, or employing your relatives.

In California, local EC’s constantly cry in their beer, over losing work to general contractor labor shops, or other enterprising servitude, not subject to apprenticeships, journeyman certs, or regulatory enforcement.

I guess that could explain some of what I have seen over the years, but some of it has been pure pettiness and power mongering.

 

[brycenesbitt]

I guess that could explain some of what I have seen over the years, but some of it has been pure pettiness and power mongering.

That's what I've seen.
Some places have a "guardians of the galaxy" approach and likely genuinely believe that they are protecting the residents of their town form tools, techniques and contractors from the other side of the border wall (the local City border wall).

And of course they won't fail to check if you've paid for a local business license, $400 thank you very much.

 

[mtnelect]

In California when Proposition 13 (Al Jarvis) passed the government couldn't raise property taxes more than 1% a year. So where did they get funding for their special projects "Special Districts" were created, and much more.

 

[akim]

Hi guys
Sorry, I have a question, out of topic.
Can a C 10 electrical contractor license holder work as electrician or need to hire licensed electrician.

 

[mtnelect]

In California the IBEW sponsored the bill that gave the C10 incense holders the right to work as an independent C10 contractor. But, if that C10 contractor hired additional electricians, they would have to be certified by Department of Industrial Relations as an electrician. This was done to restrict "Trunk Slammers".

 

[mtnelect]

California Department of Industrial Relations: If you are a licensed C-10 contractor licensed by the Contractors' State License Board, then you do not need to be certified. However, if you have employees that work under you then they need to get certified. Please visit our website for more information about certification. Note that if you are a licensed C-10 contractor but working under another C-10 contractor's license as an employee you must be certified.

 

[ramsy]

The more money you make the less regulation applies:

From top to bottom:

* Developers are the least regulated. They don't need education, skills, licensing, certified workers, or any credentials, just money to grease the campaigns of local council members, who approve their development projects. Corporate taxes are near zero with IRS enforcement defunded.

* CA General contractors are developer lieutenants, exempt from CLC 108.2(b). GC's are the laborer shops that outbid CA electrical contractors. The projects may demand performance bonds, GL policies, licensed subcontractors, or permits, but taxes are fungiable without IRS enforcement.

* Licensed electricians are subject to CLC 108.2(b) for apprentice programs, certified electricians, and journeymen, but a license without help is not supervised, not required to keep GL insurance, CEU's, and taxes are fungible without W2 auto deductions. Tax audits for cause were more likely in the past.

* Self employed wont need apprenticeship, certification, JW card, or license, but CA license law revokes the exception if permits, or helpers are required, tot.payments > $1000, or any advertising is used, which defines an unlicensed contractor, voiding any property insurance they touch. Tax audit for cause were more likely in the past.

* Certified electricians, or Journeymen must do CEU's, or be self employed, and prove hours to sit for State exam, but side-job income reporting is fungible.

* Qualified Apprentices must prove hours to test for certification, or journeyman card, and all taxes owed are auto-deducted from wages.

 

[akim]

In California the IBEW sponsored the bill that gave the C10 incense holders the right to work as an independent C10 contractor. But, if that C10 contractor hired additional electricians, they would have to be certified by Department of Industrial Relations as an electrician. This was done to restrict "Trunk Slammers".

Thank you for information

 

[jaggedben]

Hi guys
Sorry, I have a question, out of topic.
Can a C 10 electrical contractor license holder work as electrician or need to hire licensed electrician.

Both, depending on the circumstances.

A C10 qualifying individual can do electrical work as the contractor (or as an employee if they are the qualifier for the business) without being certified as a journeyman or apprentice. However if they hire any other employees to do electrical work those employees must be certified journeyman or apprentices.

Btw, strictly speaking a C10 electrical contractor IS a licensed electrician, because the CLSB issues contractor's *licenses*. Better to refer to journeymen and apprentices as *certified'* because that's the term DIR uses. Just helps keep clear who you're talking about and which credential they have.

(No other state is like this.)

 

[brycenesbitt]

In California when Proposition 13 (Al Jarvis) passed the government couldn't raise property taxes more than 1% a year. So where did they get funding for their special projects "Special Districts" were created, and much more.

Yet with Fed target inflation at 2%, the 1% means not enough revenue to maintain level services.

 

[ramsy]

No other state is like this.

Hiring help legally defines an “unlicensed contractor,” under most State’s “Limited license,” or “unlicensed minor-work exception,” per CA B&P 7048.

Also known as “self-employed” handymen, which are presumed to operate illegally, and void all property insurances, until proven otherwise.