can you use recepticle as splice point

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You can't put 13 12's in a 1/2" EMT with 500?of bends. :D

Yeah, I don't have many tough pulls.
 
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Originally posted by iwire:
Why do so many electricians have the "It's either my way or it is cheesy" attitude?

Really, has anyone else noticed that about our trade? :roll:
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Boy I have a lot to learn. In my limited experience there are usually several different ways to accomplish the same task.

By Bob:
Why do so many electricians have the "It's either my way or it is cheesy" attitude?
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IMO so many electricians either know it all or refuse to learn anything new. If it meets code and is done in a workmanlike attitude, it is acceptable.
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Personally i don't want to see a receptacle used for a splice.On residential it might be ok but is asking for problems,commercial ,no way.
 
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Originally posted by jimwalker:
Personally i don't want to see a receptacle used for a splice.On residential it might be ok but is asking for problems,commercial ,no way.
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Jim, all I can ask is "What the heck are you talking about?"

Unless the receptacle was installed by a complete moron, a feed through receptacle will last its entire life without problems.
 
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"Unless the receptacle was installed by a complete moron, a feed through receptacle will last its entire life without problems. "

Perhaps i have done far more service work than you.Often its that kind of work that generates the service calls.But just keep doing it as i can use the money .Seen a fire start in front of my eyes one night over just this kind of lazy connections.All i am saying is under small loads typical in residential you might never have problems.If your on my jobs you will pigtail.
 
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Perhaps i have done far more service work than you.Often its that kind of work that generates the service calls.But just keep doing it as i can use the money .Seen a fire start in front of my eyes one night over just this kind of lazy connections.All i am saying is under small loads typical in residential you might never have problems.If your on my jobs you will pigtail.
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I will ask you this one simple question: How will a receptacle using connections that are side-wrapped (not stabbed) ever fail unless the screws are loose to start?
 
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How about being used every day and getting moved around.Might take years but it can have a long term effect.But then i dont see the good ones only the bad ones.And 15 years ago they said back stabbing was fine too.Live and learn.
 
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Jim, trying to have an intelligent debate with you is about the same as running head first into a brick wall.
 
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Not really. Running headfirst into a brick wall causes bleeding from the top of the head, as opposed to flowing from the nose, ears and mouth. :D
 
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Originally posted by iwire:Well that makes you both typical electricians. :D
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Bob, I am going to take that as a complement. :D
OK, maybe saying a method or technique is cheezy just because you are unable to master it is a little unfair. I admit I cant make a good stranded termination to a screw so its a crimp-on for me. ;)
 
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I see that "cheezy" was a bad word choice. I certainly did not mean that there are not other acceptable ways to do the same thing. What I meant is that it is not the way I would do it.

Perhaps it is because I have done too many "bid spec" jobs that I take a different view on what is expected. I am used to doing certain things because they are found in the spces, not in the code. The use of sta-kons on stranded wires is one such example.

Each of us must decide how we want to balance quality against profit.

With regard to the "my way or the highway" attitude, I will say that I am a project manager for a company, not a politician running for an election. I am running a business for the owner, not a democracy. When one of my workers asks a question about why I he should do something a certain way, "because I want it that way" IS an acceptable answer.
 
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Originally posted by jbwhite:
Each of us must decide how we want to balance quality against profit.
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Or more precisely, our own perception of what quality is. :)
 
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You obviously feel stak-ons provide a higher quality job.

IMO the use of 'pressure plate' devices provides a higher quality job.
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Bob,

I agree wholeheartedly that both of these methods are better than wrapping a stranded wire around the screw. Only depends on the amount of quality you are willing to provide to the customer or as you said if it's in the spec.
 
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At the risk of humbly backing down from my original position. Some customers are not willing to pay for better quality.

If that is your situation, wrap away. It is legal.

It is not realistic for a customer to want to pay for a ugo, and expect you to deliver a rolls royce.
 
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Sorry but as a trac house company not enough time to finish the trim stab 14 wrap 12 and depending on gfci wrap or pressure screw.3,375 to date and 154 more close by 12/31/05.So that averages 16 finals a day on 5 day weeks ;)
 
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