chandelier over a bath tub ?

[infinity]

But the fact you may have to change the bulb(s) I don't believe is part of why the rules are like they are. You have always been permitted certain other luminaire types that also will require lamp changes in that zone, Like I mentioned before recessed lighting in a low clearance application is and has not been prohibited, yet lamps still needed changed on those, plus GFCI is not even required.

The issue with chandeliers is that they almost always have exposed lamps that's why I said "integral enclosed LED's", this eliminates the possibility of the lamps getting wet and also eliminates the need to replace the lamps. But you are correct there are other lighting types that do have replaceable lamps which don't seem to be a problem.

 

[goldstar]

I was wiring a kitchen for a lady at a high end home. I had all the counter outlet boxes up getting ready to wire them.
The lady saw that and said, no way I don't want those. She went and got a magazine of a kitchen, pictured was the counter with no outlets.
I said, where well are you going to plug in you appliances. She said I don't cook

WELL - THERE YOU HAVE IT !!! Maybe the next Code cycle the CMP's could write a HO's section for those people that don't cook and have their houses built WITHOUT A KITCHEN. Makes a great selling point.

HO's often ask me why they need to have such and such, or why do I have to have a permit for this and that . Their claim is that "my home is MY castle, I should be able to do what I want." Well, that would be fine if when you decide to vacate the house you burn it to the ground. In reality, you want to SELL your house to another UNSUSPECTING individual who ends up buying a "pig-in-a-poke" because YOU decided to do such and such or this and that.

 

[kwired]

WELL - THERE YOU HAVE IT !!! Maybe the next Code cycle the CMP's could write a HO's section for those people that don't cook and have their houses built WITHOUT A KITCHEN. Makes a great selling point.

HO's often ask me why they need to have such and such, or why do I have to have a permit for this and that . Their claim is that "my home is MY castle, I should be able to do what I want." Well, that would be fine if when you decide to vacate the house you burn it to the ground. In reality, you want to SELL your house to another UNSUSPECTING individual who ends up buying a "pig-in-a-poke" because YOU decided to do such and such or this and that.

I understand what you are saying but at same time I still think big brother has too much control in many cases. When it comes to health and safety issues or any impact to other property, I can understand the need fo some rules. Should you decide you don't want a kitchen in you house IMO is still your issue as a homeowner. Might not be a good decision when it comes time to sell, but that is still your decision.

But that also complicates things just because of how codes and other rules are written. No kitchen - may no longer be considered a dwelling unit.

No longer a dwelling unit? Probably can't build it on a residential zoned property, unless maybe it can be deemed a dwelling accessory building, but that might mean a dwelling must exist or at least be in the plans.

Big brother always finds a way to stick his nose in your business.

 

[rnatalie]

I was disheartened when the architect I was paying dearly (well one of the subcontracted engineering firms) sent over an electrical plan that I was able to generate over a page of code violations about. As my electrical contractor says, "it's easy to draw."

 

[ceb58]

Everyone is reading these magazine where they show the chandelier over the tub and they want that look. I have disappointed many clients on that issue. Some times it is shown from a vaulted ceiling and other times from a 9' or so ceiling. Vaulted ceiling may work but not on a 9 or even 10' ceiling

I disappointed a client this week for the very same thing

 

[kwired]

Everyone is reading these magazine where they show the chandelier over the tub and they want that look. I have disappointed many clients on that issue. Some times it is shown from a vaulted ceiling and other times from a 9' or so ceiling. Vaulted ceiling may work but not on a 9 or even 10' ceiling

And they don't consider the fact what is pictured in the magazine is a property worth 2 million and they only have a 200 thousand dollar home.

But they typically do keep things on similar scale, instead of a 1000 dollar chandelier, they only want to spend 100 dollars on it.