Circuit powered by two diferent circuit breaker

[gutierrjg]

:-? I found today a circuit powered by two diferent CB,or that is what its looks like.
I had to move a receptacle outlet for a TV to be connected,and I found that keeping one of this two CB on ,the circuit was always hot.I have to come back tomorrow to check what is happenning.
Any Idea what is happenning here?
As always thank you guys for your help.:roll:

 

[brian john]

Yeah, somewhere between the circuit breakers, they tied two branch circuit together. Shut off all power but one of the circuits locate the middle and seperate the ungrounded and grounded conductors wire nut one set and problem resolved. This assumes that the two circuits comply with the NEC. Or wire nut one end of the circuit in the panel.

 

[480sparky]

.... Or wire nut one end of the circuit in the panel.

You may also need to identify a possible second neutral if you go this route.

 

[quogueelectric]

Yeah, somewhere between the circuit breakers, they tied two branch circuit together. Shut off all power but one of the circuits locate the middle and seperate the ungrounded and grounded conductors wire nut one set and problem resolved. This assumes that the two circuits comply with the NEC. Or wire nut one end of the circuit in the panel.

Are you saying leave a hot backfed wire wirenutted in the panel???????????????

 

[480sparky]

Are you saying leave a hot backfed wire wirenutted in the panel???????????????

Why not?
How does one backfeed a wire?

 

[peter d]

Are you saying leave a hot backfed wire wirenutted in the panel???????????????

I've done that before. Got a complaint about a breaker tripping. A moron....err...I mean carpenter decided to do all the electrical work on one of his projects. He ran 2 circuits, only he tied them together somewhere, then landed them on 2 breakers. Kablooey! So rather than try to sort out the idiot's mess I just pulled the wire off the breaker and capped it, and walked away. I didn't make the mess and I sure wasn't going to clean it up for him.

 

[frizbeedog]

.....I didn't make the mess and I sure wasn't going to clean it up for him.

A bath and a bar of soap don't make a pig a poodle.

Funny sayings, wrong thread.

 

[peter d]

A bath and a bar of soap don't make a pig a poodle.

Funny sayings, wrong thread.

But quite appropriate!

 

[480sparky]

A bath and a bar of soap don't make a pig a poodle.

Funny sayings, wrong thread.

Still, I don't see a violation in wirenutting one of the hots in the panel.

 

[frizbeedog]

Still, I don't see a violation in wirenutting one of the hots in the panel.

Ditto .

 

[peter d]

Ditto.

I ditto that ditto.

 

[480sparky]

I ditto that ditto.

 

[tallguy]

Wouldn't be a bad idea to label it in some way though, so the "next guy" didn't have to puzzle over it.

I don't know about you all, but I see a stray wire like that and it will absolutely drive me crazy if I don't know what it is doing there.

 

[Chamuit]

∞ Ditto ∞

:grin:

 

[480sparky]

...I don't know about you all, but I see a stray wire like that and it will absolutely drive me crazy if I don't know what it is doing there.

Just 'cuz it's in a panel? Or does any dead-ended energized wire drive you bonkers?

 

[frizbeedog]

Wouldn't be a bad idea to label it in some way though, so the "next guy" didn't have to puzzle over it.

I don't know about you all, but I see a stray wire like that and it will absolutely drive me crazy if I don't know what it is doing there.

Ahh, the chain of custody of a bad initial install.

Can you say snowball?

 

[peter d]

Ahh, the chain of custody of a bad initial install.

Can you say snowball?

I ditto that!

 

[frizbeedog]

∞ Ditto ∞

:grin:

He's pulled out the old "Alpha and Omega" card.

Need some symbols here Ken. :grin:

 

[peter d]

He's pulled out the old "Alpha and Omega" card.

That's the ditto to end all dittos. I wonder what Ken will come up with.

 

[Chamuit]

I ditto that!

Nitey nite! Have a Happy 4th (∞)peter d and 480sparky!!