Color Blindness And The Mystery Wirenut

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Minuteman said:
Kruse straps? :confused:
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They're what you use to hole gangable metal wall boxes in the stud cavity for new work.

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Minuteman said:
Yeah, that's from back in the day. I would use this...
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Back in what day? I still use them every once in a while yet today for something weird in new resi work. Five and 6 gang boxes, in particular.

Had a helper make the mistake of making up a 7-gang box once. Had to get a custom plate made for that one. Oops. You can get pretty much whatever you want up to 6-gang as a stock plate.
 
mdshunk said:
Back in what day? I still use them every once in a while yet today for something weird in new resi work. Five and 6 gang boxes, in particular.

Had a helper make the mistake of making up a 7-gang box once. Had to get a custom plate made for that one. Oops. You can get pretty much whatever you want up to 6-gang as a stock plate.
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And you better have a good memory when trying to turn on just one switch.
 
I have never seen one of those Kruse brackets at the supply house. If I can't get as many switches that I need into a box they have available for me, then I put in another box.
 
Minuteman said:
I have never seen one of those Kruse brackets at the supply house. If I can't get as many switches that I need into a box they have available for me, then I put in another box.
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I like to use the gangable gem style tile boxes 3 1/2 " because they give you maximum room but you had better be sure the boxes are lined up with the plate screws this is the only drawback but I am anal so it works for me if I have to grind down a plastic plate to keepm straight I will take the extra 5 min
 
Minuteman said:
I have never seen one of those Kruse brackets at the supply house.
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I never have either, but every time I ask for a pair, they pull them out from someplace. I'd almost bet that if you shop at a decent supply house, they have a few pairs squirreled away someplace.
 
those brackets are great. reminds me of a bank i was in, built in the mid 60s in the ground level of a highrise, has a pair of escalators right in the middle of it going to a mezzanine level (ahh the glory days of corporate business -before bank branches became rooms full of staffed atm machines) anyways, they had on the wall behind the tellers an array of well over 12 lightswitches. -The cover plate looked to be 18-20" long. The whole time i was standing in line i was wondering "WTF lightswitches. how the heck did they do that? and why? and where do you get a 16 gang brown plastic coverplate?
 
wireguru said:
how the heck did they do that? and why? and where do you get a 16 gang brown plastic coverplate?
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How do they remember which switch switches which? (Sounds like Dr. Seuss)
 
mdshunk said:
I never have either, but every time I ask for a pair, they pull them out from someplace. I'd almost bet that if you shop at a decent supply house, they have a few pairs squirreled away someplace.
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Never happen. All the good supply houses are in Pennsylvania. Out here in the prairie the supply stores only carry wet romex, unsupportable conduit, counterfeit ground rods and counterfeit Q.O. Breakers. But that's okay, it don't take much to wire a wigwam. :rolleyes:
 
glene77is said:
to Paul Coxwell,

I think the NEC specs 300 Volts difference as the requirement for a divider.
Is there a 300 Volt difference between 480 and 277 ?
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It's 300V or more between the switches, isn't it? If the two switches are on different phases of a 277/480 system, then there will be 480V between them.

frizbeedog said:
The switches are unrelated to the first pic. Sorry about the confusion. :smile:
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Ah, with you now!

frenchelectrican said:
Close but here it is

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Merci, Marc
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But curiously enough, in France itself the stop signs do actually say "STOP" in English. It's a funny old world.
 
Paul., I was going to add a other stop sign which it is bilangual but somehow the picture is way too big to fit in this forum until i get some idea how i can able adjust the sizing to fit in here then it is good to go.

Unforetally that photo that is in Quebec area and now most of the stop sign in Quebec area are bilanguail now.

Merci,Marc
 
Paul Coxwell said:
It's 300V or more between the switches, isn't it? If the two switches are on different phases of a 277/480 system, then there will be 480V between them.



Ah, with you now!



But curiously enough, in France itself the stop signs do actually say "STOP" in English. It's a funny old world.
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Even some 120v next to 277 volt switches depending on the phasing will have more than 300 volts between them.
 
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