Actually 330.3(B) includes the EGC in its requirement.All the conductors of the same circuit (line, neutral, ground) shall be contained within the same raceway, cabletray
Please look at 300.3(b)
Actually 330.3(B) includes the EGC in its requirement.All the conductors of the same circuit (line, neutral, ground) shall be contained within the same raceway, cabletray
Please look at 300.3(b)
If you follow NEC the grounding conductor has to be sized as table 250.122 max 1x400mm2 equivalent to 6000AMP.I have to connect 4 single conductors, 400 Vac, 50 Hz, of 300 mm2 per phase in parallel across 120 m length to deliver power to hospital. For 3 phases, neutral, and grounding; total single conductors will be 20 (all of same size 300 mm2). The raceway for these conductors is ventilated trough cable tray of 500 mm width.
What is the best wiring method to reduce the effect of magnetic and voltage field?
I arrange conductors in parallel as shown in the attached picture. Is it right?
Actually 330.3(B) includes the EGC in its requirement.
That will depend on the ampacity required. Not knowing the load or the OCPD rating, all I can tell you is to see 392.80(A)(2). Derating (adjustment factors) vary with spacing and layering.very good illustration. i have one more question; what about spaces between groups?
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Have no idea where you got 1x400mm?, or 6000A???If you follow NEC the grounding conductor has to be sized as table 250.122 max 1x400mm2 equivalent to 6000AMP.
But, asper NEC there is no EGC FROM TRnsformer to MSP..Who will correct me?!!
I'm in code cycle 2011, there is no 330.3(B).
Have no idea where you got 1x400mm?, or 6000A???
Anyway, sizing and whether required depends on whether they are service conductors or feeder conductors. Regardless, metal tray is required to be bonded.
Perhaps the OP'er should clarify service or feeder...
Yes, that's the max size in Table 250.122... but 4 sets of 300mm? will not have 6000A fusing or breaker. More likely 1600A or less, so looking at maybe a 125mm? copper EGC... if a feeder.In table 250.122
Max overcurrent 6000AMP vs 800AWG(COPPER)=400mm2.
Ohh! ...that typo :lol:I'm in code cycle 2011, there is no 330.3(B).
Absolutely right, i just wanted to show the max EGC that we could use is 400mm2 as 250.122 not 4x300mm2 as the OP says.Yes, that's the max size in Table 250.122... but 4 sets of 300mm? will not have 6000A fusing or breaker. More likely 1600A or less, so looking at maybe a 125mm? copper EGC... if a feeder.
Ohh! ...that typo :lol:
Should be 300.3(B).
Initially i thought that service conductor is the one coming from building outside up to service conductor or the separately derived system located inside.Have no idea where you got 1x400mm?, or 6000A???
Anyway, sizing and whether required depends on whether they are service conductors or feeder conductors. Regardless, metal tray is required to be bonded.
Perhaps the OP'er should clarify service or feeder...
Aside from nuances associated with terminology and separate requirements, the essential difference is grounding.Initially i thought that service conductor is the one coming from building outside up to service conductor or the separately derived system located inside.
But now after refer to feeder definition, i just wondering what would be difference SC VS F when the separately derived system is located outside.
I think That would meet the exception of 250.32(a)..If a feeder, it requires a grounding conductor, bonding of non-current-carrying metal parts to the grounding conductor, and bonding of the grounded conductor to the grounding conductor/system can be at or anywhere in between the source or the [first] disconnecting means... but must be the same location where the building's grounding electrode system is connected.
& That would meet 250.32(a)..If a service, the same grounding of non-current-carrying metal parts is done with the grounded conductor (or bonding jumpers thereto), and bonding of the grounded conductor to the grounding system must be at the disconnecting means.
250.32(A) is regarding "Grounding Electrode" for "Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or Branch Circuit(s)." I am perplexed by your bringing grounding electrode(s) into the discussion. I thought we were only discussing required, or not, grounding conductors for the OP situation. That said, 250.32(A) does not apply to service conductors, and the exception does not apply to a feeder supplying a building.I think That would meet the exception of 250.32(a)..
& That would meet 250.32(a)..
both of them say feeder & branch circuit, so from your opinion the service conductor could be a single circuit as the exception of 250.32(a) says.
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If the OP grounding conductor is the EGC wo would meet the exception....!!!!!250.32(A) is regarding "Grounding Electrode" for "Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or Branch Circuit(s)." I am perplexed by your bringing grounding electrode(s) into the discussion. I thought we were only discussing required, or not, grounding conductors for the OP situation. That said, 250.32(A) does not apply to service conductors, and the exception does not apply to a feeder supplying a building.
I'm confused!!!If the OP grounding conductor is the EGC wo would meet the exception....!!!!!
I know it is not the real & may be it is not applicable, but just assume there is a chiller rating greater than 2000a where meets 225.30(c) or fire pump where meets 225.30(a)(1).I'm confused!!!
Are you sure you mean 250.32(A) Exception??? ...cause that only applies to a branch circuit.
Okay... I'll assume. What does 250.32(A) Exception have to do with the EGC?I know it is not the real & may be it is not applicable, but just assume there is a chiller rating greater than 2000a where meets 225.30(c) or fire pump where meets 225.30(a)(1).