Correct me if I'm wrong

[nickelec]

Aren't all service equipment enclosures required to have the neutrals bonded to GES? Here the only thing that's bonded (i think) is the main switch , customer is complaining about intermittent flickering .
I didn't different deeper yet but I believe that's all the service equipment should be bonded correct me if I'm wrong

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[augie47]

The grounding electrode conductor is required to be connected at or ahead of the service disconnect. It appears the meters/panels shown are downstream of a service disconnect thus not required to have a grounding electrode connection.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

And I would bet those meter bases have the neutrals bonded to the can.:blink:

 

[oldsparky52]

And I would bet those meter bases have the neutrals bonded to the can.:blink:

I sure hope they do.

 

[david]

And I would bet those meter bases have the neutrals bonded to the can.:blink:

250.142 (B)

 

[ptonsparky]

Where is the GEC?

 

[nickelec]

Landed at the main service switch nutreal bar

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[ptonsparky]

Where is the electrode?

 

[nickelec]

Water main

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[LarryFine]

I still wish we were allowed to land exterior GECs in the meter; it's the ideal location with inside service disconnects.

 

[Little Bill]

I still wish we were allowed to land exterior GECs in the meter; it's the ideal location with inside service disconnects.

All but one of the POCOs here require it be landed in the meter.

 

[tortuga]

Aren't all service equipment enclosures required to have the neutrals bonded to GES? Here the only thing that's bonded (i think) is the main switch , customer is complaining about intermittent flickering .
I didn't different deeper yet but I believe that's all the service equipment should be bonded correct me if I'm wrong

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Is that a Federal Pacific 100A main, with 3 meters after it, and each apartment also has a upgraded 100A main?
Perhaps service lateral is overloaded?

 

[peter d]

Are those the actual utility meters? :blink: This is ConEd?

 

[kwired]

Aren't all service equipment enclosures required to have the neutrals bonded to GES? Here the only thing that's bonded (i think) is the main switch , customer is complaining about intermittent flickering .
I didn't different deeper yet but I believe that's all the service equipment should be bonded correct me if I'm wrong

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If the breaker/enclosure to the left of the meters is the service disconnecting means, then that is where the GEC needs to go to, or any point ahead of there as has been mentioned. Everything beyond that is not service equipment. Everything beyond that should have isolated neutral (neutral bonded in the meters be a permitted exception here) and separate EGC's.

 

[nickelec]

Definitely overloaded and this is Edison

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[kwired]

Definitely overloaded and this is Edison

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Does the main breaker ever trip? If not kind of hard to say it is overloaded - other than to question if the FPE will trip when it should.

 

[nickelec]

I just got the call yesterday it never trips but I still suggested to change it

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[Dennis Alwon]

I sure hope they do.

Well, the neutral shouldn't be bonded to the can since the disconnect is before the meter. There should be 4 wires going to the meter and the neutral should be isolated.

 

[oldsparky52]

Well, the neutral shouldn't be bonded to the can since the disconnect is before the meter. There should be 4 wires going to the meter and the neutral should be isolated.

I think we are seeing 2 different installations here.

You are thinking there is a disconnect before the meters? I'm thinking the disconnect to the left of the meters is double tapped on the house meter.

 

[oldsparky52]

Are these sub meters or POCO meters?