Damp location

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marcb said:
Location, Damp. Locations protected from weather and not subject to saturation with water or other liquids but subject to moderate degrees of moisture. Examples of such locations include partially protected locations under canopies, marquees, roofed open porches, and like locations, and interior locations subject to moderate degrees of moisture, such as some basements, some barns, and some cold-storage warehouses.
Jim, how far are the can lights for the edge of the overhang? As a code professional I would approve these for this location.
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They are a good foot in to nearest edge.Only way they getting wet is if rain goes horizontal or snow drift builds up to 10 feet LOL.This guy was trying his best to fail it for any reason he could find.He best like eggs cause he is walking on them.There is a fine line between doing ones job and harrasment.
 
marcb said:
Give him a gut shot. maybe he'll wake up and realize how dumb he is!
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I am pretty sure he knows he is walking on thin ice.Had he failed it i would demand the number i violated.Perhaps he wanted a way to back down ,if so fine and i would never bring it up to him.He asked me to remove it so he could read all its stickers.Likely hoping it would back him up but it didnt.
 
Jim, I emailed halo but have not received a reply yet. All the spec I saw said nothing about damp locations. If you go to their site you will se lots of trims there are open baffle type with out lens or gaskets that are identified to be installed ina wet location.
 
marcb said:
Jim, I emailed halo but have not received a reply yet. All the spec I saw said nothing about damp locations. If you go to their site you will se lots of trims there are open baffle type with out lens or gaskets that are identified to be installed ina wet location.
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Thanks could you post the link
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Thanks could you post the link
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Still won't do any good unless you have model no's.

Again, take the spec sheet Charlie "cpal" linked in p#12. The spec sheet is for various assemblies using the same housing. Trims which modify the UL label must be so noted, and two are: the second and third from bottom.

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Smart $ said:
Still won't do any good unless you have model no's.

Again, take the spec sheet Charlie "cpal" linked in p#12. The spec sheet is for various assemblies using the same housing. Trims which modify the UL label must be so noted, and two are: the second and third from bottom.

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I asked what kind of trim was listed or approved for use in a damp location as while as wet locations. when I receive their reply I will post the email. I think this will help all of us and not just the inspectors but even you dirt ball contractors... LOL... just joking!
 
As far as I know only surface mount boxes ,not flush mount boxes for what ever purpose.IE: fans lights receptacles .................
 
marcb said:
Location, Damp. Locations protected from weather and not subject to saturation with water or other liquids but subject to moderate degrees of moisture. Examples of such locations include partially protected locations under canopies, marquees, roofed open porches, and like locations, and interior locations subject to moderate degrees of moisture, such as some basements, some barns, and some cold-storage warehouses.
Jim, how far are the can lights for the edge of the overhang? As a code professional I would approve these for this location.
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Why does it matter how far? The code merely says "under".
 
allenwayne said:
As far as I know only surface mount boxes ,not flush mount boxes for what ever purpose.IE: fans lights receptacles .................
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If you're referring to an FS style box, those are listed for wet locations.
 
infinity said:
If you're referring to an FS style box, those are listed for wet locations.
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If listed for a wet location wouldn`t it be listed for a damp location also ???As it can also be used in a DRY location !!!!The NEC is a min standard and if listed for wet location then damp,dry are just redundent locations that it can be used.That is like saying a 3R enclosure can`t be used indoors.:)
 
allenwayne said:
If listed for a wet location wouldn`t it be listed for a damp location also ???As it can also be used in a DRY location !!!!The NEC is a min standard and if listed for wet location then damp,dry are just redundent locations that it can be used.That is like saying a 3R enclosure can`t be used indoors.:)
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So could i install a 3r panel in a shower stall ? No toilet or sink ?
 
allenwayne said:
If listed for a wet location wouldn`t it be listed for a damp location also ???As it can also be used in a DRY location !!!!The NEC is a min standard and if listed for wet location then damp,dry are just redundent locations that it can be used.That is like saying a 3R enclosure can`t be used indoors.:)
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I know, this is obvious. The question I asked was whether or not there are boxes only listed for damp locations. An FS box isn't one of them.
 
infinity said:
I know, this is obvious. The question I asked was whether or not there are boxes only listed for damp locations. An FS box isn't one of them.
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Would it need to be rated damp ? Its going to be covered by a fan or a blank so its not in a damp location.
 
hey Jim. Im in Saint petersbug/Clearwater area and have to work Tampa on ocassion and I have seen first hand some of the fine inspectors they have......had one come in and fail a temp pole he passed 8 months ago.....when he realized what he did he told us to forget it it was his mistake...what a winner.
 
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