Day lite control

[kwired]

I had to bring it up, tired of seeing those commercials on TV for the attorneys that will represent you if you feel you were effected by the asbestos in the past, and countless similar commercials for medical procedures, medications, etc. this could be no different someday.

 

[Fitzdrew516]

absolutely. did you know that the electrons saved by daylight harvesting enter the
brain stem, and cause partial blindness?

that is why the lights appear so dim... it's the electrons in the brain stem....

and to make it even worse, where businesses cooperate in "load shedding", when
big brother turns you down to 70%, the controller does it over 5 minutes, so you can
adjust to it without whining. you just gradually become aware that you can't see poo.

but, it's worth it. this will cure global warming..... and cooper lightings spongy second
quarter earnings.

checklist; institutional fears addressed:

global warming
big brother circa 1984
mindless overregulation
evil public utilities
EMF poisoning
evil lighting companies
aging baby boomers

now, if i can somehow tie AFCI breakers into this,
that will cover all the big ones.....

This thread has become amazing. I thank you for that.

 

[Fitzdrew516]

I hear yah, however there is something weird about that type of light. You get the Fc but many people just don't like the light. It seems bright but not. Is that for a CRI near 90 ?

You ever notice that flying bugs are not as attracted to LED light? There is a reason. I think we will find large amounts of Eye issues in the coming years.

Sierra - You got me curious so I asked my friend who knows everything (Google). I found this link: http://www.energycircle.com/blog/2011/08/17/correction-led-lights-do-attract-bugs
Not sure how trustworthy it is, but if it's like most things on the internet it's 100% true

 

[mwm1752]

California might be different but in Colorado the electrical permit is based upon electrical installation per the NEC. The electrical inspector inspects per the NEC. Energy savings is not in the NEC. I would certainly call out an electrical inspector failing an electrical final because there were to many fixtures in a building or I didn't put in high efficacy lamping. The rule would need mandated by the AHJ in a approved ammendment by local goverment. The Building inspector is technically the inspector passing or failing the components required for the energy code.

Not true, energy codes are in the CO state building codes. Colorado is on the I believe 2003 IECC statewide, and local building departments adopt newer as they are able. In the Denver metro most places are now on the 2012 IECC. Some add custom requirements on top of the code, such as Boulder where you have to beat the code by 30%. Denver is in the process of adopting and amending the 2015 international codes right now. Check out your local building department's website, they will list all adopted codes and amendments and most if not all include the IECC in that list. Inspectors may not be as well versed in energy codes as they are with the NEC, but they certainly do look for it. I have had to justify my designs during final (designs that were approved by plans review) to some of the pickier inspectors in the Denver metro.[/QUOTE]

How is my statements not true? Colorado does not instruct its employees for electrical & plumbing to fail an inspection for an energy code violation. State Electrical inspectors do not inspect for energy code. State plumbing inspectors inspect for energy codes. The state statutes are specific on inspections to be done for electrical & plumbing and which codes are followed. Failing an inspection for a problem with another code is not proper. And the IECC is a building Code -- Energy savings is not in the NEC. -- local city/county juristictions may want those inspections part of the deal but technically it would have to be amended and council approved.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Sierra - You got me curious so I asked my friend who knows everything (Google). I found this link: http://www.energycircle.com/blog/2011/08/17/correction-led-lights-do-attract-bugs
Not sure how trustworthy it is, but if it's like most things on the internet it's 100% true

Thanks that helps explain it.
Take a look at the spectrum , see all those missing wavelengths compared to daylight or incandescent. That is why I have such a hard time seeing under those conditions. Just because you have great amount of FC does not mean that the whole spectrum is at or near that level.
The reds and yellows are dramatically lower. With a 90 CRI and better you will be closer to incandescent.
You can't change the physics of the thing.