Dealing with customers and existing code violations

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kwired said:
That can get complicated easily I would think. If they can prove that you basically have history of operating as a contractor they may be able to put full blame of any problem on you. If project is one that lasts for say two years and you didn't work for anyone but your "employer" you can pull this off easier. If the project only lasts a few days or few weeks and you also took on service calls and other small projects for other clients during that time - you will probably still be deemed a contractor and not an employee of that owner.
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Good Point to consider everyone's case separately.

In Eric's case, he said its literally his first job on his own, so perhaps his history is employee only.
 
ramsy said:
Good Point to consider everyone's case separately.

In Eric's case, he said its literally his first job on his own, so perhaps his history is employee only.
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Yes I left my last job and started my own business and this is my first job under my business

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Eric23 said:
Yes I left my last job and started my own business and this is my first job under my business

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This is a minor problem, wait until someone doesn't pay you and you have a lot into the project.:blink:
 
@Eric23
First, welcome to the forum!
I notice you have several posts that are back-to-back-to-back.
If after you post something and feel the need to add to it, you can simply hit the "edit post" button and add to your post.
Now there is a time limit to do this, I think it's 15 min. but may be shorter. If the "edit post" button is visible then you can edit it.

It just looks like you're talking to yourself with so many posts stacked on top of each other.
 
Little Bill said:
I may mention something I see as a violation but if it doesn't directly affect the work I'm doing I don't push it. If the violation would prevent my work from passing inspection, then I tell them it has to be fixed or I can't do the work.
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Same tho I am more adamant about fixing gross safety violations, tho that is wholly subjective as to what NEC violations take precedence over others. 4' between NM staples and a cheater ground/neutral jumper on a receptacle are both NEC violations, tho the latter is much more hazardous.
 
We always point out the violation to the owners and if they don't want it addressed we have to put it in writing that we had made them aware of the violation and they have decided not to assess the issues at hand. They must sign the paper we print out so we booth have a copy just in case something happens your butt is covered. That is how the inspector wants us to handle these cases. But usually once the owner realizes how serious it is they want it addressed.

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I gave up a long time ago trying to change every 125/250v 50 amp range receptacle being used to power portable augers. Those augers are often pulled to other grain bin locations and neighbors borrow from neighbors. Long time customer's grandson comes in looking for a new male cord end for his auger. We were out so he went to town, bought and installed his own. He followed the directions on the cap and put the White wire on the White prong. He noticed sparks at some point after he plugged it in. The starter is mounted on the auger frame work. The entire auger was still energized when my help got there a day or two later. I don't doubt that we installed a 3R Midwest version of that receptacle 25-30 years ago on that farm. "Guilty" is all I hear when I think about it. They were both just that close...
 
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