So your contract with the owner somehow makes the distinction that you are supposed to provide a design, but not if it means you have to visit the job site?
I don't know and neither do you. Neither of us was there.
But if you have a customer that keeps beating down the price you obviously will do less work for that job or walk from the job.
There is no charity here.
What I don't miss is that they aren't being paid bundles of money any more than we are.
I don't know and its really non of my damn business is it? No on forced me to be an electrician and no one forced you to be an EC.
As I asked earlier, would you also say it is my problem if the addition requires a larger panel or an upgraded service that the Engineer didn't note? Or less drastically, he indicates to extend the lighting circuit, but we find out that it is overloaded with the extension? These are all the same thing.
I think that when errors and omissions happen you take care of it and bill for it. Why waste worrying about if the designer should have known? That will be between the designer and their customer.
If the Engineer isn't "paid" to do what he has to do, then he shouldn't do it.
I am starting to understand you now,
you get to decide what the EEs responsibilities are, not the EE or the person paying their bill.
Don't kid yourself that we, as contractors aren't giving stuff away. We do it every day.
That is up to you and yes we sometimes give stuff away ...... but do you make it a habit to give away the same thing every job?
Another question. How often do we voluntarily credit when things go the other way?
My whole premise is based on the implication that it is the Fire alarm contractors responsibility to cover things like power supplies in his bid. My premise is that it is the EE's responsibility or it is a change order.
My premise is that it is not up to the sub contractors to determine responsibilities of designer they are not paying the bill for.
Please trust me, I have a clue about little info, bad prints etc. I ask for cut sheets I get a copy of the PO for the equipment instead. :roll::?