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don_resqcapt19 said:
That is because no male connector has ever been evaluated for use with female threads. Some AHJs see that as a use outside the listing and a 110.3(B) violation.

It is something I have done thousands of times. I would bet a very small percentage of the LFMC connectors that I have installed have been used in the way that they have been evaluated for...that is with lock nuts.
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WOW! A male fitting mating with a female fitting is "Fittings 101". How does anyone ever miss evaluating that obvious combination for basic electromech continuity?
 
Carultch said:
WOW! A male fitting mating with a female fitting is "Fittings 101". How does anyone ever miss evaluating that obvious combination for basic electromech continuity?
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Because connectors are designed to be installed in non-threaded enclosures using a lock nut. There was no reason to evaluate the connectors for an application other that what they are intended for.
 
ptonsparky said:
Violation or not, I can't think of a place I would use them. After a year or two in the sun carflex isn't all that flexible, the gaskets will be rotted away and if I bury, sch 40 is easy enough to bend.

I haven't seen them pushed at any of my supply houses. For DIYers only.
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these can be used at the irrigation controls, in my beautifully piped E room :(
 
Carultch said:
WOW! A male fitting mating with a female fitting is "Fittings 101". How does anyone ever miss evaluating that obvious combination for basic electromech continuity?
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One of my 20 something female office help asked me the difference between the two. The look on my face as I prepared to explain must have been a clue. She turned pink and said "Never mind, I get it."
 
Carultch said:
WOW! A male fitting mating with a female fitting is "Fittings 101". How does anyone ever miss evaluating that obvious combination for basic electromech continuity?
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Grounding/bonding may be an issue for metallic fittings if you put a straght thread fitting into it instead of tapered thread of RMC/IMC and I understand that concern but that isn't an issue with a non metallic fitting.

Apparently PVC female adapters are for use to adapt to tapered thread only, which mostly limits us to threaded RMC/IMC?
 
kwired said:
Grounding/bonding may be an issue for metallic fittings if you put a straght thread fitting into it instead of tapered thread of RMC/IMC and I understand that concern but that isn't an issue with a non metallic fitting.

Apparently PVC female adapters are for use to adapt to tapered thread only, which mostly limits us to threaded RMC/IMC?
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Those times all I had were a FA and TA in the truck, and no PVC coupling, were a listing issue? I am going to be bound up and not sleep for weeks now.
 
ptonsparky said:
One of my 20 something female office help asked me the difference between the two. The look on my face as I prepared to explain must have been a clue. She turned pink and said "Never mind, I get it."
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Well at least this male/female designation is obvious.

With Multicontact and Amphenol connectors for PV wiring, it is much more confusing to learn the convention. The part that looks female externally, is actually a male connector. Because the metal pin, not the plastic shell, establishes the connector gender. I had a co-worker explain why that connector is male, and he said "let me put it this way, it's an intact male if you know what I mean".
 
iwire said:
After working with UL listed push in MCap cable connectors http://www.aifittings.com/catalog/flex-ac-mc/snap2it-connectors/ and numerous other dubious connections that pass UL grounding tests I am confident any of the change overs I have field made would work fine.
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I make change overs all the time using rigid couplings and straight thread fittings and have no issue with it myself, but supposedly they are not listed for that. Just did some the other day - IMC to LT flex as final connection to some motors.
 
Carultch said:
Well at least this male/female designation is obvious.

With Multicontact and Amphenol connectors for PV wiring, it is much more confusing to learn the convention. The part that looks female externally, is actually a male connector. Because the metal pin, not the plastic shell, establishes the connector gender. I had a co-worker explain why that connector is male, and he said "let me put it this way, it's an intact male if you know what I mean".
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XLR balanced audio connectors are the same way. Are the three small pins inside the shell the "male" part(s), or is the larger cylindrical part that fits into the other shell what determines its gender? Since the three pins point in the direction of signal flow most of the time, I believe they are "male".
 
ggunn said:
XLR balanced audio connectors are the same way. Are the three small pins inside the shell the "male" part(s), or is the larger cylindrical part that fits into the other shell what determines its gender? Since the three pins point in the direction of signal flow most of the time, I believe they are "male".
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They are confused don't know what gender they truly are and really need some professional counseling:D
 
I used them a few years ago in my outdoor kitchen, ran all PVC to all GFI's, have 2 angled walls, worked great. Not in direct sunlight, but they have not deteriorated.
 
kwired said:
They are confused don't know what gender they truly are and really need some professional counseling:D
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Absolutely, an obvious case of gender non-identification! Can be very traumatic to the youth of today, possibly leaving them scarred for life, and hiding in a safe place!
 
And on top of all that, there is the General Radio 874 hermaphroditic connector.
 
Carultch said:
Well at least this male/female designation is obvious.

With Multicontact and Amphenol connectors for PV wiring, it is much more confusing to learn the convention. The part that looks female externally, is actually a male connector. Because the metal pin, not the plastic shell, establishes the connector gender. I had a co-worker explain why that connector is male, and he said "let me put it this way, it's an intact male if you know what I mean".
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Hereby called the Ladyboy fitting haha!
 
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