Do you think this sink should require a receptacle?

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To truly get away from the rule you would have to prove that you didn't live, sleep, cook or pee in the garage.

Not something most of us could say that we haven't done ourselves at one time or the other.

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jap said:
I tried that but it made my teeth hurt..... :)


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The same recent studies that show that daily flossing, whether you need it or not, did not improve oral health also showed that most people floss incorrectly, making it more likely that they will damage their gums.
That is, it probably made your gums hurt, not your teeth. Unless your teeth were so tightly spaced that forcing the floss in and pulling it back out exerted a lot of pressure on your teeth.
 
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To truly get away from the rule you would have to prove that you didn't live, sleep, cook or pee in the garage.

Not something most of us could say that we haven't done ourselves at one time or the other.

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The rule says dwelling unit bathrooms... Is the garage a dwelling unit?
 
Dennis Alwon said:
The rule says dwelling unit bathrooms... Is the garage a dwelling unit?
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If pressed, I would say that an attached garage is but a detached garage is not.
In multiple tenancy there is a distinction between the various dwelling units and the common areas.
In a single family residence I would be strongly inclined to call the whole building one dwelling unit.

Hypothetical: If you had a main service panel with only two breakers somewhere and with one feeder to the attached garage subpanel and one to the main house panel would you accept using the 86% ampacity requirement for the main house feeder?
 
Imo, a garage is not a dwelling unit.

If I had a question like this I would have gotten an answer before the rough-in, or at least have installed a box and the wiring. If you dont need it, blank it off and go about your day. If you did (do), then pop in a GFCI receptacle and go about your day. It's not worth my time to fish a wall and install after the fact, where 15 minutes, 15' of 12/2 and a 50c box on rough-in is easier to eat than doing it at this point, especially on a "pretty large resi project" where there should be more than enough margin for it.
 
GoldDigger said:
The same recent studies that show that daily flossing, whether you need it or not, did not improve oral health also showed that most people floss incorrectly, making it more likely that they will damage their gums.
That is, it probably made your gums hurt, not your teeth. Unless your teeth were so tightly spaced that forcing the floss in and pulling it back out exerted a lot of pressure on your teeth.
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Is this true ?! Mind = blown.


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jap said:
I think a better argument could be made about one not being required in a "Detached" garage, but, as long as the 2 structures are physically attached to each other, I don't know where one would draw the line between the Dwelling and Non-Dwelling portion.


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I think that's the key here. If the garage had been detached the OP might have had a fighting chance on this issue, but as is I don't think so.
 
We can debate the receptacle requirement until the cows come home. That's not going to change what the inspector thinks unless we can cite code that clearly says it's not required. The question to ask is "Is an attached garage considered part of the dwelling unit for the purpose of the NEC?" You can google that question and get plenty of info to read, if you choose. It might be faster to just put in the receptacle and be done with it.
 
pedestal sink

pedestal sink

brantmacga said:
Been working on this pretty large resi project ......

There is a big workshop/garage that is attached to the house, inside of which is a half bath. It will have a pedestal sink like the one pictured below (took the pic at supply house warehouse).

I purposely did not put a receptacle within 3' of the basin. Instead I put it on the opposite wall and at 18" off the floor. It's there for an air freshener or whatever.

Inspector failed the rough-in over not having this recep at counter height next to the sink.

It seemed to me you create more potential for a hazard with a recep there and no countertop, just a huge sink basin. Inspector disagreed..... code is the code sort of thing.


Thoughts? I feel like there should be an exclusion in the code for this. If the garage were detached, would it still be considered part of a dwelling? I wouldn't think so.

This pic is an example of the sink that will be installed....

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Hello
I think you just need to check the electric connection over there.
 
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