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The heating element is typically all that is 208/240 volt. The motor, timer and or electronics are 120 volts. So the only difference you should notice is a little longer drying time.
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B4T
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- Long Island, N.Y.
LawnGuyLandSparky
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No, but it is still permitted to install the dryer circuits without GFCI protection (at least for a few more years :roll.
But it is no longer permited to install NEMA 10-30 receptacle outlets on new circuits when a grounded conductor is used. The reason is that it is considered unsafe to bond the non-current carrying metal parts of an appliance to the grounded conductor load of the service. (yeah, I know you know this).
That is why you shouldn't tell someone NOT to perform this upgrade, just point out that it isn't required while replacing the appliance, but it is not safe enough to install it that way anymore.
My point is that consumers are being told that it IS required.
Cavie
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It was called 10/3 plain.. no ground.. really
You know I don't from fessing up
Yep, you are 100% correct. 10/3 plain is just what it is called. Black, red, white. No ground.
Cavie
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208 volt is very common in condo's and motels in Florida. Has been for years. As an inspector I went round and round with the a/c guys installing the wrong heat strips.
Volta
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- Columbus, Ohio
I know, and I agree with you, and it is wrong for them to be told that. And quite frankly, it is likely safer to leave the old 10-30 in place as-is than to have j-random handyman or homeowner try to 'upgrade' it to a 14-30.
But the OP is employed by an EC, so I will trust his mechanical ability here on this and try to give him the info. he needs to make an informed decision.
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- Massachusetts
Apartment buildings typically have 3 phase 208Y/120 services and yes the stoves take longer to boil water.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
Please understand that whether the supply is 120/240 or 120/208 affects drying time and nothing else.
The 4-wire receptacle and cordset should only be used IF the existing circuit is 4-wire, or you're going to run a new 4-wire circuit (which isn't necessary.)
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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It is, but the 3-wire circuit is permitted to be used in existing installations. It's important that either the 3-wire or the 4-wire method be continued to the new appliance.
LawnGuyLandSparky
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Not signifigantly, as the dryer heats up the element turns on and off thermostatically... it's off more than it's on. A slightly lower voltage will just extend the on time but the load of clothes would only take a few minutes longer to dry...
GUNNING
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- Gainesville, Florida
Gas?
Gas?
This is just too complicated for my limited intelligence. How bout just sticking with gas, its clean. fast, cheap and only needs a 120v outlet. No transformers, no 3 wire, no 4 wire, no problems for the electrician to figure out. Yup, as a diy stick with gas and just plug it in.:grin:
Gas?
This is just too complicated for my limited intelligence. How bout just sticking with gas, its clean. fast, cheap and only needs a 120v outlet. No transformers, no 3 wire, no 4 wire, no problems for the electrician to figure out. Yup, as a diy stick with gas and just plug it in.:grin:
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