Maybe i should not post this here, but just need to vent a little we are timming out a 18 unit apartment building and are finding more buried boxes, cut wires, by the drywallers everywhere and don,t know what to do anymore. Started seeing this from the first 12 on rough and did some things differently to try and prevent it on the rest, did not help. What or how is the best way to prevent this with the next job if the G.C. uses this drywall company again so it does not happen like this again?
Drywall Nightmares
- Thread starter greg y
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Rewire
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Find the boxes with a ballpeen box locator,after they patch the first two or three its amayzing how it stops being a problem.
steelersman
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- Lake Ridge, VA
energize all of the wires. That should prevent them from cutting them. As for covering the boxes maybe you could put something that sticks out of the boxes in before sheetrock goes up. A long spike should do the trick.
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Bad idea, you will wind up in court in today's world. BACK CHARGE the G.C. and let him pass it on to the drywall crew. I remember a hotel that I was the foreman on years ago that had this problem bad. I went to the weekly sub's meeting and whined to the drywall company owner. He said there was NO WAY his crew was burying that many boxes. I made a $100.00 bet with him, in front of all the other foremen and the job super, that I could find no less than 12 buried boxes in three random rooms of his choice. He took the bet, picked the rooms, and was thoroughly embarrased when my count was to 13 after the second room. He paid me my $100.00 AND the problem stopped for the duration of the job. On larger jobs, I always walked the rooms and sprayed a little bit of paint at the base of the wall and under each light box so I could easily point out where the boxes were covered up after the hangars were finished.
tonyou812
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- North New Jersey
LOL were can I get one of those? Dont you have them marked out on the print? When my buddy was doing a senior high rise he spray painted outlet/light locations on the floor. Which was a big help for situations like this.
wirebender
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- North Central Texas
Make sure the floor isn't going to be stained concrete.:grin:
B4T
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- Long Island, N.Y.
I ALWAYS mark the floor before the animals start throwing drywall up. They are into how many boards they can hang in an hour.. not where our boxes might me. There is no reason for wires to be cut hanging drywall unless they have a beef with the GC. Keep cutting holes and THEY will get the message.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
I've had this happen, too. I usually offer the GC the choice of me finding the boxes at the rate of my choosing, or letting him handle it.
Either way, I don't do digging them out free.
Either way, I don't do digging them out free.
ultramegabob
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- Indiana
that is the best way to handle it
brian john
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- Leesburg, VA
A meeting with all players discussing the issue, possibly involving the inspector with a threat of a shut down (even if you fake this threat) and major back charge for all involved. If that does not work explain to the drywallers the next step as noted a HAMMER for repairs.
Cow
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- Eastern Oregon
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- Electrician
I like Larry's approach.
Luckily I've never had this problem. You have to wonder, "don't the drywallers know you can also make their lives hell too when you go back and start hacking and cutting?" Common sense?
Luckily I've never had this problem. You have to wonder, "don't the drywallers know you can also make their lives hell too when you go back and start hacking and cutting?" Common sense?
76nemo
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- Ogdensburg, NY
What's impressing, and embarrasing to the rockers is when you can land a swing dead center in all of what they covered up. Makes for a short arguement
Mr. Wizard
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- Texas
A bender handle or a clawed locator works pretty well in a pinch too.
Oh yes, I give the sheetrockers no quarter when I go looking for buried boxes. I'm well known to break out the sawzall and cut and cut and cut until I find my box. After awhile they'll get the hint. I have had to knuckle up a couple of times, but dammit they need to quit deliberatly covering our boxes
RJohnsonMasterElectrician
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- Right now ??, previously VT
I had a contractor puttting STOW on (like stuco) I was trimming out went to turn circuit and half of rm didn't work. I was like HUM, hey wait there was a teacher that came through each night and video the entire job. I confronted STOW contractor he was arrogant and bet him a case of beer. Went to teacher found the room went back with a cote hanger, poked 3/4 small holes in outside wall and found it. He ate humble pie that night.
VIDEO ALL YOU WORK, I DO
VIDEO ALL YOU WORK, I DO
ItsHot
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Usually if you just mention the word "ice" :roll:the drywallers tend to try and do right!
Ice
Usually if you just mention the word "ice" :roll:the drywallers tend to try and do right!
steelersman
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Ha ha ha. La Migra!
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