Duplex Garage wiring

[James L]

There's also the use of the word common.

Common areas are those areas which have equal and unhindered access by any and all tenants.

If that garage has an imaginary line drawn down the middle, and the left half belongs to tenant A while, the right half belongs to tenant. B, there isn't any part of that building that's common to both tenants.

Trying to press a code which only applies to common areas onto a garage, which has no common areas, that's out of bounds. It's an abuse of the code

 

[PaulMmn]

What?

He's on 2nd...

 

[LarryFine]

If that garage has an imaginary line drawn down the middle, and the left half belongs to tenant A while, the right half belongs to tenant. B, there isn't any part of that building that's common to both tenants.

Wouldn't that then require a circuit from each tenant's panel to their respective half?

 

[Hv&Lv]

The state of Wisconsin Department of Safety and Professional Services sent a ruling down saying a common well requires a house panel and could not be fed from a branch from a tenants house. It isn’t a building, and there are no imaginary lines drawn in the well either..

Page 12, 2 instances..

https://dsps.wi.gov/Documents/Programs/ElectricalLighting/FAQ2017WinterUpdateResidential.pdf

Just putting it out there..

 

[James L]

Wouldn't that then require a circuit from each tenant's panel to their respective half?

I don't think it would, because there's only one door opener and nothing else. If the garage was newly built, then I would say yes

And I think there's a stark difference between common use versus common area

That code is only addressing the common areas.

 

[kwired]

I don't think it would, because there's only one door opener and nothing else. If the garage was newly built, then I would say yes

And I think there's a stark difference between common use versus common area

That code is only addressing the common areas.

If laundry were in a detached structure ? Kind of not common I know especially in just a two family dwelling situation.

How about a rural location where both occupants share the same well or even outdoor lighting (other than say required lighting near each occupants entrance and supplied from each occupancy) such as parking or driveway lighting on poles?

 

[James L]

If laundry were in a detached structure ? Kind of not common I know especially in just a two family dwelling situation.

How about a rural location where both occupants share the same well or even outdoor lighting (other than say required lighting near each occupants entrance and supplied from each occupancy) such as parking or driveway lighting on poles?

I think there's a difference between an area in which two people to use the whole thing versus an area split in half.

And I'm just saying the code is using a particular grammar

 

[kwired]

I think there's a difference between an area in which two people to use the whole thing versus an area split in half.

And I'm just saying the code is using a particular grammar

Kind of like when you were a kid and you and your brother/sister had to draw an line in the back seat of the car as to who can occupy what spaces?

Then you constantly encroached on each other's space the entire trip

 

[hillbilly1]

Don, the problem is that there is no door other than the garage door so how would you get in to open it?

My old boss had one of those type of garages, they have a keyed cylinder lock on the doors, that when removed, pulled the opener release, so the door could be manually lifted. Hopefully they have the key, my boss didn’t, so I had to go through a window.

 

[hillbilly1]

This is one situation where solar would actually work well and be cost effective.

 

[Mtybee]

Agreed with most all above. No particular rules about who pays the electric bill. But in Denver at least, if you re-feed a garage you must still have the disconnect and two circuits, one lighting and one power 120 volt. But, you must also have a "means provided for EV circuit " even if you don't have wire in it and that is only if you don't alter the garage in any way. If you do, then your EV circuits have to be complete. I think one should plan for the eventual need for 2 EV chargers, unless these new hydrogen engines jerk the rug out from EV's.

 

[arnoldtailor]

An upcoming job I have is refeeding and rewiring a non-owner-occupied duplex, 2 car garage. My question, is there anything in the code that requires power from both units to be brought to the garage? There is no public panel.

When refeeding and rewiring a non-owner-occupied duplex with a 2-car garage, the NEC typically requires that each unit has independent control over its circuits. This means you should bring power from both units to the garage. It's best to check with your local building department or an electrical inspector for specific guidelines to ensure everything is up to code and safe.