EGC twist .

[618electrician]

Cain i twist solid EGC totether for a splice. ( on wire nut ) ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[hbiss]

Why not?

-Hal

 

[electrofelon]

The only restriction would be if the product instructions stated no pre twisting. I have never seen such a product.

 

[Master Nater]

surface area = good junction

 

[hillbilly1]

The only restriction would be if the product instructions stated no pre twisting. I have never seen such a product.

Agree, Most just say no twisting necessary, but doesn’t prohibit it.

 

[readydave8]

wire nut ) ????????????????

You are using a wire nut?
Or you are not using a wire nut?

 

[618electrician]

You are using a wire nut?
Or you are not using a wire nut?

no . by the nec can i twist the egc wires to make a splice ?

 

[Eddie702]

I don't see why not. What size conductor are we talking about? You could also use a split bolt.

 

[curt swartz]

no . by the nec can i twist the egc wires to make a splice ?

You mean just twisting with no other connector?

 

[618electrician]

I don't see why not. What size conductor are we talking about? You could also use a split bolt.

#12 or #14

You mean just twisting with no other connector?

You mean just twisting with no other connector?

Yes.

 

[hillbilly1]

Twisting and soldering was allowed at one time, but I think it is no longer allowed.

 

[jim dungar]

Yes.

No.

 

[Fred B]

250.148 references 250.8 and 110.14(B) as requirements for splicing. These would prohibit ONLY twisting for the wire as a means of splicing and would require a splicing device or by brazing, welding, or solder but if soldering the connection must be mechanically secured before soldering.

 

[Birken Vogt]

I have seen a LOT of houses where the grounds were only twisted from maybe the 70s plus or minus a decade.

 

[hillbilly1]

We were just talking about that earlier today at the CE class. It was very common here until we got inspections in the early 2000’s.

 

[LarryFine]

No, you need to wire-nut EGCs.

 

[hillbilly1]

No, you need to wire-nut EGCs.

Or crimp

 

[LarryFine]

Or crimp

Etc.

 

[618electrician]

Etc.

THANK YOU !

 

[Eddie702]

I have seen a LOT of houses where the grounds were only twisted from maybe the 70s plus or minus a decade.

Agree. They treated EG like it was unimportant, almost anything from good to bad was done. Around hear they used to wind the EG around one of the screws on a two screw Romex connector and call it good. In fact and old timer told me he was taught originally to keep the ground outside the box. I have seen many ungrounded device boxes and sometimes they ran the ground to the device and did not ground the box (except through the device screws). If you read some of the old books they thought grounding was a bad thing