electrical licenses

[jeff43222]

To upgrade a service panel is not the the same as doing new building construction , even in that rural area of your friends you will not be able to wire a new home without uniform building codes inspections enforced by the state, that includeds electrical, plumbing, HVAC there are no exceptions anymore on this matter.

I agree, but where I come from, upgrading a service panel definitely requires a permit and inspection, which is why I looked into it before agreeing to help my friend.

As to whether new homes are inspected by state inspectors for compliance with electrical, plumbing, and HVAC codes, I don't know anything about this. I've never done new construction in Wisconsin.

Now as far as the state licenses go, its what I posted before , once you have a state journeymans card or master you don't need to apply for any license at any town in the state ........your journeymans or masters card supercedes all this local nonsense .

For example if I am working in LaCrosse I need to be state licensed , there are no local licensed issued ........now if I am working in lets say Sparta wis. and I believe they have a local license requirement as long as I have a state license they can't ask me to pay extra or take their 10 question test , as long as I have my state J-mans card they can't require anymore from me nor can they deny we to work in their community.

You have posted before that Wisconsin does not have state licenses and that anyone can just walk in and work here !!
A lot of what you say is half truths and personnel opinion .

Sorry, but you're almost completely wrong about this. If you have a state journeyman certification, you can apply to any locality for their journeyman license, and state law says the have to accept your certification card and can't require you to take their exam. You're right about that part. But you still have to pay their fee to get their local license. In some cities, the only way you can qualify for a local license is to first have a state certification. That's their prerogative.

I just looked at the City of LaCrosse Web page, and it seems that they issue local electrical licenses. Here's the Web link: http://www.cityoflacrosse.org/index.asp?

To set the record straight you must be able to verifiy 5 years experience in the electrical construction trade with a minimum 1000 hours per year . I believe they will credit 2000 hours of this time from an approved school and related classes. Or serve a state indentured appenticeship program which you then don't have to take the state testing.
Also maintenance or some factory postion that does electrical work does not qualify one taking the state exam.

The journeymans test is 100 questions based on the NEC 2005 and Wisconsin comm. articles , you need 70% for a passing grade .

Upon passing you are then issued a state ID number and are registered as a certified Journeyman electrician with the state of wisconsin.

I agree with you on this point. But notice how you said "certified" instead of "licensed" in your last sentence? That's because it's not a license. If you don't believe me, you might want to look at the state's Web page. Here's the link: http://commerce.wi.gov/SB/SB-DivCreds.html#J. It says that:

A certified journeyman electrician may perform electrical construction work in a municipality which allows this kind of licensure to perform electrical work pursuant to s.101.87(2) to (4), Stats., and in accordance with local ordinances. Wisconsin has a statewide voluntary certification of electricians in various classes, contractor, contractor-restricted, master, journeyman and beginning, recognizing their knowledge and abilities. Whether an electrician credential is required and what category of credential is needed are determined by individual municipalities.​

You have done your best in the past to down play the value of this state certification and mince words to have people believe this is not a license and there are no requirements here to work as a electrician but all you have to do is fall off the back of a turnip truck and you can open up shop , give it a break would ya.

I never said anything to downplay the value of the state certification. It's definitely valuable if you want a local license and the state credential is all they accept. But if you live where my friend lives out in the sticks, the credential doesn't mean much because there is no licensing there.

Personally, I think Wisconsin should have statewide licensing for electricians, but it doesn't. It does for plumbers, though. I had a long chat on this very subject with the chief inspector who issued me my local master license, and what he told me about certification and licensing agreed completely with what I have posted here.

 

[drg]

I just looked at the City of LaCrosse Web page, and it seems that they issue local electrical licenses. Here's the Web link: http://www.cityoflacrosse.org/index.asp?

I agree with you on this point. But notice how you said "certified" instead of "licensed" in your last sentence? That's because it's not a license. If you don't believe me, you might want to look at the state's Web page. Here's the link: http://commerce.wi.gov/SB/SB-DivCreds.html#J. It says that:

A certified journeyman electrician may perform electrical construction work in a municipality which allows this kind of licensure to perform electrical work pursuant to s.101.87(2) to (4), Stats., and in accordance with local ordinances. Wisconsin has a statewide voluntary certification of electricians in various classes, contractor, contractor-restricted, master, journeyman and beginning, recognizing their knowledge and abilities. Whether an electrician credential is required and what category of credential is needed are determined by individual municipalities.​

I never said anything to downplay the value of the state certification.

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For the past year anytime someone brings up the issue of state license's you always have made some condescending remark about the wisconsin state license's .

As far as state certification goes we understand that here and don't need you from over in minnesota to tell us anything , when we apply for a job they ask if you have a state license, jobs are advertised as "licensed journeyman "
when you are on a job site the local AHJ will ask to see your license , in this state it is recognized as a state license, you have in the past have made it perfectly clear in your posts that this certification is worthless and wisconsin should be included in with the other state that don't require a license !!

Editted to remove insultive remarks, I appologize if I offended any Viking fans out there.
John

 

[haskindm]

In Maryland, electrical licenses are issued by the county (and some cities) for work done in their jurisdiction. There is a state license, but it only allows you to get the local license without testing in each jurisdiction, it does not allow you to perform iny work. It is almost impossible to get the counties within the state to agree on anything. To get all of the jurisdictions across the country to agree on a licensing standard that would be acceptable everywhere would take a miracle!