Electricians, responsibility or engineers

[Knightryder12]

Well, you shouldn't have to, because the requirement is that the SCCR has to be at or above the AFC, so that's a given...

Hopefully though, your specs clearly spell out that any packaged mechanical equipment and control panels shall have the proper SCCR to meet that. That's something that happens a LOT lately; low bidder packaged equipment suppliers pay no attention to it and use cheap control panels that come with the "courtesy" untested/unlisted 5kA SCCR, then expect the poor EC to come up with a way to connect it... That issue HAS TO BE dealt with in the specifications or procurement requirements.

Yes it does. Also, we do MEP in house 99.9% of the time so our mechanical guys are fully aware. We get 5K SCCR all the time and have to remind them.

 

[b_electric]

Bidding a school and they don’t have the AIC rating For equipment, who’s responsibility is that generally

PE, no doubt. It is not the electrician's responsibility to size the main gear, just install it, generally speaking. Could we size it? of course we can. But again, generally speaking, we are not the 'designers', even in design/build projects, the AHJ, in my experience anyway, needs wet stamp from PE sigs on IFP planset taking responsibility for the design of the system. Electrical Contractors are not also PE's, at least not in California.

 

[AC\DC]

Over in Oregon we can do everything a pe does for are own jobs

 

[electrofelon]

Over in Oregon we can do everything a pe does for are own jobs

In Washington there is no PE requirement, even for large jobs. City of Seattle has a clause for projects requiring plan review, just saying if the electrical contractor can't submit plans of sufficient clarity and quality for review, than the department can require plans be drawn by an architect or engineer.

 

[AC\DC]

In Washington there is no PE requirement, even for large jobs. City of Seattle has a clause for projects requiring plan review, just saying if the electrical contractor can't submit plans of sufficient clarity and quality for review, than the department can require plans be drawn by an architect or engineer.

The ec can’t do other ec jobs though right?

 

[electrofelon]

The ec can’t do other ec jobs though right?

What exactly do you mean by that?

 

[AC\DC]

What exactly do you mean by that?

A PE can make plans for anyone and EC in Oregon can only do their own. They can’t do it for others is Washington the same.

Sorry, I never proofread my post

 

[electrofelon]

A PE can make plans for anyone and EC in Oregon can only do their own. They can’t do it for others is Washington the same.

Sorry, I never proofread my post

I am not aware of any such law prohibiting that, but there could be something buried in the WAC or RCW that I am not aware of.