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Emergency TIA needed ASAP for raintight EMT fittings

A bit of RV silicone makes about any thing RT. The red stuff helps identify which ones you missed.
Yeah seriously, a bead of silicone then tighten, that would work 1000 times better than this gaskets and allow tight fittings. I might just start doing that. BTW I care very little about water entry, it's that the fittings can't be tightened and/or will become loose when the gasket gets ruined by the weather.

It's kind of ironic, with all the obsession about grounding and bonding in the industry, then you have these things which make for absolutely horrible ground fault path.
 

Fred B

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Yeah seriously, a bead of silicone then tighten, that would work 1000 times better than this gaskets and allow tight fittings. I might just start doing that. BTW I care very little about water entry, it's that the fittings can't be tightened and/or will become loose when the gasket gets ruined by the weather.

It's kind of ironic, with all the obsession about grounding and bonding in the industry, then you have these things which make for absolutely horrible ground fault path.
Seems if the bonding can or will be an issue adding alternative bonding such as a bonding bushing would be called for. 310.10 requires in part: "Metal raceways, cable armor, and other metal enclosures for conductors shall be metallically joined together into a continuous electrical conductor and shall be connected to all boxes, fittings, and cabinets to provide effective electrical continuity." No prescriptive how to do. And installation must meet 250.148, with many options but not limited. Generally code makes a requirement, but at times, how it is complied with in part can be up to the installer. If the equipment/devices/materials required for one application doesn't meet requirement for a different code, compliance can sometimes be made from within alternate allowances for compliance. such as a bonding nut or bushing in the case of complaint here.

AFA failure rate of the sealing device, that just seems to be one more incidence of poor QC and mfg. indicative and systemically rampant today. Also the inundation on the market of Cheap knockoffs only adds to the problem, when a mfg. is able to get a small part at a few pennies less when they are making 10's of thousand it adds to the profit for the mfg. and in some cases no concern for the ultimate longer term consequence of the product failure. Know of a nearby mfg. that was making a product that a fix to an issue was just a few pennies, but they felt it cheaper to defend a lawsuit than fix, and they were proved right, Sued and successfully defended. Another case even though they lost the penalty was much less than the profit they made. So why fix it!

Don't know the solution to the seeming lack of pride in workmanship epidemic we are experiencing the consequences of such as this complaint.
 
Sure we could blame the fitting manufacturers, but I blame UL. They are the ones that completely failed us here. One of several reasons why I'm pretty much never going to trust them again as the degree of their incompetence is unconscionable. I guess the NFPA too for starting the whole thing when there was a never an issue in the first place.
 
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