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Electric-Light:
Motors and transformers are designed for some nominal voltage with some tolerance relative to the nominal value. In the design are such factors as starting torque, power output, temperature rise, duty cycle, efficiency, and others. In the application of a particular motor those factors and others pertinent to the application will be considered. In the past this design has been based on direct attachment to the supply line with no other electronic control.
This does not mean that in some applications one can not further improve the system efficiency by modifying the voltage to the motor.
Starting torque in a compressor application may be of prime importance, not efficiency. But once up to speed the input voltage might be reduced to improve operating efficiency over the majority of the on time.
If you look at power input to a refrigeration compressor there is initially a very large peak power requirement, then after the compressor is up to speed the steady state power input is high, but nothing close to startup. Following this it gradually drops considerably from the early part of the on cycle to the end. This implies a drop in load torque thru the on cycle. Thus, one could safely reduce the voltage during the cycle. From some data of 10-10-2009 on my Amana freezer I had an ON time of about 14 minutes, and an OFF time of about 30 minutes. Peak power averaged over 1 second at turn on was about 800 W, immediately following this the steady-state was about 400 W dropping gradually to about 330 W at the end of the 14 minutes. These are at 125 V.
In the design of a refrigerator there are large differences in steady-state line voltage that must be considered. The refrigerator will be designed to start at some minimum steady-state line voltage. This design criteria might be 105 V or even lower. Move this refrigerator to a location where steady-state line voltage is high, and there is excessive voltage for the motor's needs. Why not reduce the voltage if it improves the efficiency?
Also note that the power saving device is dynamic and self-adjusts to the particular conditions of both nominal voltage and varying load.
I think the question is not whether it works or not, but how much real improvement there is, and at what cost?
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Electric-Light:
I do not understand your comment, and in particular relative to the device in the original post.If it was that simple to implement, why do you think they don't just design motors like that? Do you think fitting refrigerators with US spec compressors for the Japanese market (100v) would decrease annual power consumption?
Motors and transformers are designed for some nominal voltage with some tolerance relative to the nominal value. In the design are such factors as starting torque, power output, temperature rise, duty cycle, efficiency, and others. In the application of a particular motor those factors and others pertinent to the application will be considered. In the past this design has been based on direct attachment to the supply line with no other electronic control.
This does not mean that in some applications one can not further improve the system efficiency by modifying the voltage to the motor.
Starting torque in a compressor application may be of prime importance, not efficiency. But once up to speed the input voltage might be reduced to improve operating efficiency over the majority of the on time.
If you look at power input to a refrigeration compressor there is initially a very large peak power requirement, then after the compressor is up to speed the steady state power input is high, but nothing close to startup. Following this it gradually drops considerably from the early part of the on cycle to the end. This implies a drop in load torque thru the on cycle. Thus, one could safely reduce the voltage during the cycle. From some data of 10-10-2009 on my Amana freezer I had an ON time of about 14 minutes, and an OFF time of about 30 minutes. Peak power averaged over 1 second at turn on was about 800 W, immediately following this the steady-state was about 400 W dropping gradually to about 330 W at the end of the 14 minutes. These are at 125 V.
In the design of a refrigerator there are large differences in steady-state line voltage that must be considered. The refrigerator will be designed to start at some minimum steady-state line voltage. This design criteria might be 105 V or even lower. Move this refrigerator to a location where steady-state line voltage is high, and there is excessive voltage for the motor's needs. Why not reduce the voltage if it improves the efficiency?
Also note that the power saving device is dynamic and self-adjusts to the particular conditions of both nominal voltage and varying load.
I think the question is not whether it works or not, but how much real improvement there is, and at what cost?
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