estimated time for roughin a 2 story house

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steelersman

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and while your struggling with your holes, i'm already way past you. :D Look, I really dont care how you wire, I honestly dont. but I will tell you an easier way to do the job, I'm not about to have a peeing contest with you, I already have seen your true colors. :wink:
your opinion is that it's an easier way to do the job. My opinion is that you are very anal in the first place to snap a chalk line just to drill your holes. :) I really don't know what your intention is about the true colors reference, but I'm sure that obsessive compulsive technique is much slower. :)
 

stickboy1375

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your opinion is that it's an easier way to do the job. My opinion is that you are very anal in the first place to snap a chalk line just to drill your holes. :) I really don't know what your intention is about the true colors reference, but I'm sure that obsessive compulsive technique is much slower. :)

Never mind...
 

steelersman

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You guys are killing me, try reading the posts, I was responding to guys that drill at the hip, try and keep up. :roll:
yeah drilling at the hip for most would be roughly 12- 16 inches give or take for a person's height and how high they are installing the boxes. I didn't realize that you thought that anyone wasn't keeping up. What's to keep up with? You're already behind cause your still snapping lines and laying down just to drill out and I'm pulling wire and almost ready to tie in now. :)
 

stickboy1375

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yeah drilling at the hip for most would be roughly 12- 16 inches give or take for a person's height and how high they are installing the boxes. I didn't realize that you thought that anyone wasn't keeping up. What's to keep up with? You're already behind cause your still snapping lines and laying down just to drill out and I'm pulling wire and almost ready to tie in now. :)


Yeah, no comment. Not trying to put you down, but its over your head what I was talking about.
 

steelersman

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Ok, I need to get in on the action. A straight drill for roughing in? :confused:
my terminology may be wrong. I just mean a regular drill. Not the hole hawg and not the D handle and not the right angle either. I can't find a pic of it on milwaukee's site, but similar to the hole hawg but not quite as intricate. Basically a standard cordless drill.
 

peter d

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my terminology may be wrong. I just mean a regular drill. Not the hole hawg and not the D handle and not the right angle either. I can't find a pic of it on milwaukee's site, but similar to the hole hawg but not quite as intricate. Basically a standard cordless drill.

I know what you meant...I was more commenting about the potential for wrist breakage by using a corded straight drill. But you said cordless....even a cordless with an auger is a risky proposition, but to each their own. :)
 

steelersman

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I know what you meant...I was more commenting about the potential for wrist breakage by using a corded straight drill. But you said cordless....even a cordless with an auger is a risky proposition, but to each their own. :)
Well the cordless drill I use combined with only a half inch auger bit never threatens to twist my wrist like the electric drills.
 

stickboy1375

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yeah your just far too complex for me. I wish I could hang with you.


its not that complex, thats why I dont understand. :-? If you really wanna know what i'm talking about just PM me, but i'm not about to get into an posting argument, I will explain what i'm talking about, and I will listen to what your talking about, but were both obviously not on the same page.
 

steelersman

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its not that complex, thats why I dont understand. :-? If you really wanna know what i'm talking about just PM me, but i'm not about to get into an posting argument, I will explain what i'm talking about, and I will listen to what your talking about, but were both obviously not on the same page.
ok I'll PM you.
 

celtic

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I call that a "plumber's drill" because that's what they typically use around here for their self-feed bits.

But I can't understand using it to rough a new house. I have both the D-handle and Hole Hawg and the slower motor speed of the D-handle drives me nuts compared to the Hole Hawg, at least to push a 7/8" auger bit to rough in. The D-handle is good for old work though.

Works like a champ!
Cheaper than a hole hawg and lighter also.
Why would you need a brute like the hole hawg for a 7/8" hole?

Ok, I need to get in on the action. A straight drill for roughing in? :confused:

Well the cordless drill I use combined with only a half inch auger bit never threatens to twist my wrist like the electric drills.

A 1/2" bit :-?

3/4" or 7/8" ...sure, but 1/2" - that makes for extra work above switch locations, panel, etc
 

peter d

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Sure it's a bit faster [1200 rpm vs. 900]....but IMHO, not worth the money for me.
A rt. angle w/ a sharp auger and away we gooooooo....

Well I've been living in the dark ages...my D-handle is the 500 rpm model (old one from the early 80's). I need an upgrade. :)
 

tonyou812

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Doesn't anybody use the milwaukee D handle drill with the 30 inch extension? Its very efficient. very little need for a ladder in most homes. It goes by many names. Boom drill, tube drill. Its the first big tool I bought. I personally cant stand roughing a house without one. I dont usually snap a chalk line though. I grab a stick and use a sharpie to mark studs.
I think neatness goes a long way with inspectors and GCs and once you get the hang of it it doesn't take that much longer to do. I pride myself on my work. I dont ever want to be one of these "I can wire that house in two days guys"
I dont care what the say, when you do that you make way too many compromises in your work. And I charge accordingly. If there is no money to be made in a house than let the monkey, ratty van electricians do it. Ive come accross many homes wired during the resi boom and I thank them for all the service work they left us. Ive come across homes that have two circuts for the second floor totally pushed to the max. One vacume cleaner and pop.
 

iwire

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Well I've been living in the dark ages...my D-handle is the 500 rpm model (old one from the early 80's). I need an upgrade. :)

There are three models of hole hogs last I knew, I prefer the slower RPM model with higher torque, I make those smaller right angle drill release smoke.
 
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