Faled Inspection for Lack of UFER and CERT

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As an update,

I finally worked it out with the county inspector, the plumbers had cut open the concrete slab to run the groundwork, so i ended up installing 20'+ of rebar in the open pit, and stubbed up about 6" of the rebar and grounded it to the panels.

Thank you for everyone's response!

-HDT
 
hdt1980 said:
As an update,

I finally worked it out with the county inspector, the plumbers had cut open the concrete slab to run the groundwork, so i ended up installing 20'+ of rebar in the open pit, and stubbed up about 6" of the rebar and grounded it to the panels.

Thank you for everyone's response!

-HDT
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That's not an approved electrode.

250.52 Grounding Electrodes.
(A) Electrodes Permitted for Grounding.
 
jxofaltrds said:
I hope that inspector has an ESI or he has a major problem(Ohio). Building Inspector can't do that.

If the BBS allows this I'd like to see that opinion.
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The building inspector does this for our town and if a copper extension is installed the concrete contractor installs it. The copper part should go away when we adopt the 2014 in June as that specifically permits a rebar extension out of the concrete for the connection of the GEC.
 
Smart $ said:
I think that's where the certification part comes in.
I believe its the EC's responsibility to be there after rebar is installed then get it inspected prior to concrete pour. In most jurisdictions I have been involved with, a structural pre-pour inspection is required, too, and both inspections are often performed by the same inspector.
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The problem with that is that in many cases no electrical contractor has the contract at the time of the pour. That is why this inspection is done by our building inspector and why the concrete contractor has to supply an external connection point for the GEC.
 
hdt1980 said:
As an update,

I finally worked it out with the county inspector, the plumbers had cut open the concrete slab to run the groundwork, so i ended up installing 20'+ of rebar in the open pit, and stubbed up about 6" of the rebar and grounded it to the panels.

Thank you for everyone's response!

-HDT
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The NEC requires the rebar to be in a footing, not a slab to create a UFER.



Tapatalk!
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
The problem with that is that in many cases no electrical contractor has the contract at the time of the pour. That is why this inspection is done by our building inspector and why the concrete contractor has to supply an external connection point for the GEC.
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Kind of hard for the EC to be there before the pour if no EC has been secured :p.

More to the point of my post was pre-pour inspection and certification. Inspector could technically hold up pour until CEE has been established and certifed. Forces GC to get on the ball. :happyyes:
 
hdt1980 said:
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I finally worked it out with the county inspector, the plumbers had cut open the concrete slab to run the groundwork, so i ended up installing 20'+ of rebar in the open pit, and stubbed up about 6" of the rebar and grounded it to the panels.
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jxofaltrds said:
That's not an approved electrode...
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GoldDigger said:
The NEC requires the rebar to be in a footing, not a slab to create a UFER.
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Gregg Harris said:
FUBAR # 2 slab should have vapor barrier and not in direct contact with earth
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I believe he was referring to the remedy not being in foundation or footing.

However, in general you are correct. Where slab is cut open for below slab work after the original pour the concrete patched when done, but fixing vapor barrier is usually ignored. That part of the slab is usually in direct contact with earth ...but still not in the foundation. :happysad:
 
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