Finished basement
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jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: Finished basement
Well thats every outlet in most homes here unless we think carpet will make a differance.I agree its a good idea but dont see it likely to happen because of the cost
Well thats every outlet in most homes here unless we think carpet will make a differance.I agree its a good idea but dont see it likely to happen because of the cost
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: Finished basement
We build what the people are willing to pay for.Yes it is a shame when we could offer far safer homes but the price tag is what 90 % care about the most.
We build what the people are willing to pay for.Yes it is a shame when we could offer far safer homes but the price tag is what 90 % care about the most.
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- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
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Re: Finished basement
I thought the presence of water was what began the safety issues requiring GFI's. In a utility room, regardless of the flooring in question, there are dangers present; water heaters leak, etc.
People power-wash their garages, spill antifreeze, etc. Basements fill during a flood--perhaps that is a compelling reason to remove the "habitable room" from 210.8(5).
Concrete houses are catching on around here, slowly. I've seen cast earth houses. All the exterior walls, and perhaps some interior walls are concrete or cast earth. I don't see protecting a whole house as a reasonable requirement, unless it doesn't have a roof!
I'm on the fence. I think, as it stands now, the AHJ makes the final determination about the status of an area. This system seems to work, IMO. Thoughts?
I thought the presence of water was what began the safety issues requiring GFI's. In a utility room, regardless of the flooring in question, there are dangers present; water heaters leak, etc.
People power-wash their garages, spill antifreeze, etc. Basements fill during a flood--perhaps that is a compelling reason to remove the "habitable room" from 210.8(5).
Concrete houses are catching on around here, slowly. I've seen cast earth houses. All the exterior walls, and perhaps some interior walls are concrete or cast earth. I don't see protecting a whole house as a reasonable requirement, unless it doesn't have a roof!
I'm on the fence. I think, as it stands now, the AHJ makes the final determination about the status of an area. This system seems to work, IMO. Thoughts?
charlie
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- Indianapolis
Re: Finished basement
The last several comments is the reason that the Code Making Panels generally want a "body count" before making a change. If no one is getting hurt, is it really a danger? It does seem that some changes are being made lately that the panel just thinks it is a good idea and doesn't have a body count.
The last several comments is the reason that the Code Making Panels generally want a "body count" before making a change. If no one is getting hurt, is it really a danger? It does seem that some changes are being made lately that the panel just thinks it is a good idea and doesn't have a body count.
allenwayne
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Re: Finished basement
Slab floors here are the norm,why No basements when the water table is 3 ft As far as junk I have to disagree,After andrew the building code was dramatically changed.Wind speeds were increased to if not mistaken 150 MPH,Windows that were allowed to screwed into 1x4 are now tapconned directly into block walls,If within 15 miles of the coastline all windows must either be tempered safety glass or have hurricane shutters installed.Since snow is not an issue load weights are not as extreme as up north.Besides termites leave cement alone.It would be cheaper to build in wood as opposed to block walls and cement slabs
Slab floors here are the norm,why No basements when the water table is 3 ft
As far as junk I have to disagree,After andrew the building code was dramatically changed.Wind speeds were increased to if not mistaken 150 MPH,Windows that were allowed to screwed into 1x4 are now tapconned directly into block walls,If within 15 miles of the coastline all windows must either be tempered safety glass or have hurricane shutters installed.Since snow is not an issue load weights are not as extreme as up north.Besides termites leave cement alone.It would be cheaper to build in wood as opposed to block walls and cement slabs allenwayne
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Re: Finished basement
Think of all the service calls for receptacles not working :roll:
Think of all the service calls for receptacles not working :roll:
charlie
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- Indianapolis
Re: Finished basement
A shocking experience!
A shocking experience!
allenwayne
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Not sure about others but given a 150 MPH hurricane I would opt for the concrete box No brainer
Not sure about others but given a 150 MPH hurricane I would opt for the concrete box
No brainer jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: Finished basement
Was rather nice weather this weekend here.Could have been freezing my butt in the north
Was rather nice weather this weekend here.Could have been freezing my butt in the north
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: Finished basement
Roger ,look at it this way if its under 45 i aint working period.So maybe its best i stay right here and p ut up with getting sun burned in the winter
Roger ,look at it this way if its under 45 i aint working period.So maybe its best i stay right here and p
ut up with getting sun burned in the winterjimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: Finished basement
Nope but you wont hear nothing from me about snow
Nope but you wont hear nothing from me about snow
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