garbage disposal wiring

Status
Not open for further replies.
stickboy1375 said:
Yeah, that is nice to do at rough in, this was probably added after the fact...
Click to expand...
Then fish it... or go with the continuous feed disposer/air switch setup.
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
In that case, then Carflex would be subject to the same physical damage.
Click to expand...

So -- tell me what you do under your kitchen cabinets that you can actually cut thru carflex and then get into the NM cable and damage it.

I am sorry but this is ludicrous to think that carflex is not suitable under a sink. You have the right to your opinion but I cannot agree one bit with that.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
So -- tell me what you do under your kitchen cabinets that you can actually cut thru carflex and then get into the NM cable and damage it.

I am sorry but this is ludicrous to think that carflex is not suitable under a sink. You have the right to your opinion but I cannot agree one bit with that.
Click to expand...



Code is code, you can't just pick the ones you like...
 
If you look at the use permitted and the uses not permitted, you will see that carflex as well as NM cable is not permitted to be installed where subject to physical damage. I do realize that there are different types of physical damage.
In the example I gave, the damage may not be cutting, but the carflex/cable being stressed and pulled out of the fitting causing damage and possibly a spark of shock hazard. I wonder, is that so ludicrous?
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
If you look at the use permitted and the uses not permitted, you will see that carflex as well as NM cable is not permitted to be installed where subject to physical damage. I do realize that there are different types of physical damage.
In the example I gave, the damage may not be cutting, but the carflex/cable being stressed and pulled out of the fitting causing damage and possibly a spark of shock hazard. I wonder, is that so ludicrous?
Click to expand...

I guess Galvanized pipe would be called for to really protect it.:roll: I strap the carflex and use a 90 degree fitting going back toward the drains. I think it would be next to impossible to yank that cable out and do damage to anything unless you have parties under your sink.
 
stickboy1375 said:
Code is code, you can't just pick the ones you like...
Click to expand...

I don't think I am picking the ones I like. I find this to be a very satisfactory way of wiring it. I have done so for 15 or 20 years and haven't had a problem.

Your definition of what is subject to damage is just different than mine and all the inspectors in our area. I have never been caught on this and trust me we have some areas where nothing gets by.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
I guess Galvanized pipe would be called for to really protect it.:roll: I strap the carflex and use a 90 degree fitting going back toward the drains. I think it would be next to impossible to yank that cable out and do damage to anything unless you have parties under your sink.
Click to expand...

You do not give man enough credit for thier ingenious ways.

Without spending too much time searching my photo, here are two examples of what we may be talking about


disposerhardwired.jpg



This second picture is not the greatest example, as I have pictures of worse situations with people cramming tons more under the sink, but I am sure you get the idea.
undersink_equipment.jpg
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
You do not give man enough credit for thier ingenious ways.
Click to expand...

Pierre I have seen a/c units wired with sealtight-- carflex with the metal in it-- and it was pulled out of it's connector just as that top picture was.

I must be better than "MAN"
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
This second picture is not the greatest example, as I have pictures of worse situations with people cramming tons more under the sink, but I am sure you get the idea.
undersink_equipment.jpg
Click to expand...

I gotta ask what the two white cords are for. Hopefully not for the disposal! And why do they look like they run into the top of the back two 4-11/16 boxes through a PVC fitting?
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
If you look at the use permitted and the uses not permitted, you will see that carflex as well as NM cable is not permitted to be installed where subject to physical damage. I do realize that there are different types of physical damage.
In the example I gave, the damage may not be cutting, but the carflex/cable being stressed and pulled out of the fitting causing damage and possibly a spark of shock hazard. I wonder, is that so ludicrous?
Click to expand...

physical damage= able to have a car driven into it. I'm thinking that if they drive a car into the kitchen sink, the fact I only used nm will not be a big factor. the car is not usually there. I use nm, and have never failed due to it. It is strapped nicely and not left to dangle to catch on and be in the way of everything in the cabinet. It's just a cord and plug device under the cabinet with the cord being nm, strapped along the drain pipe, with the cord plugged into a surface mount duplex that has a small piece of mn from where the cable enters the cabinet and enters the handy box.
 
I just run the romex and be done with it. I kind of route it behind the plumbing so it's protected by the pipes. (that is, the pipes will block anything from being slammed into it.)
 
bradleyelectric said:
physical damage= able to have a car driven into it. I'm thinking that if they drive a car into the kitchen sink, the fact I only used nm will not be a big factor. the car is not usually there. I use nm, and have never failed due to it. It is strapped nicely and not left to dangle to catch on and be in the way of everything in the cabinet. It's just a cord and plug device under the cabinet with the cord being nm, strapped along the drain pipe, with the cord plugged into a surface mount duplex that has a small piece of mn from where the cable enters the cabinet and enters the handy box.
Click to expand...

Can you direct me to where you found that definition of physical damage?
 
480sparky said:
I gotta ask what the two white cords are for. Hopefully not for the disposal! And why do they look like they run into the top of the back two 4-11/16 boxes through a PVC fitting?
Click to expand...


If I told you what they are for, you may not believe me.

Those cords are the leads of Low Voltage lighting that one can buy at Home Depot. The installer happened to mangle this install.
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Can you direct me to where you found that definition of physical damage?
Click to expand...

It's as applicable as anyones. :)

All subject to the inspectors expectations.

In this area NM installed as Peter described was the norm for many, many years, I have never seen one damaged. ;)

I think if I was to go back to that work I would use a cord and plug connection. :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top