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I am not denying the installation, just playing devils advocate.
In our area, this installation is mostly installed with NM cable.

Yes, physical damage is subjective, but I think most AHJs are not thinking cars run into it.

Something like that would be severe physical damage. ;)

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iwire said:
I think if I was to go back to that work I would use a cord and plug connection. :)

I've even begun to change my ways and use cord and plug. But I'm not buying the whole damage argument at all. I think that can be taken way too far.
 
I agree Peter. I've been using the cord and plug for about 10 years. I do think it is better, but also easier. Especially when I get to the finish before the plumber. Most inspectors, myself included pass the install with the NM exposed in the cabinet.
 
I like to put a cord end on a piece of s/j 12/2 and either a single outlet or split duplex 20 anp recept it there is a dishwasher there also. puting a cord on it makes it easier to service it later on. Romex alone seems to cheap.
 
Cord and plug connected for me, but to answer the question, I have stapeled romex under cabinets before and been fine. I do not know if it been brought up yet, but "subject to physical damage" can be very subjective. ;) :grin: Maybe they should change the wordin in 2001 to "subjective to physical damage." :smile:
 
Around here NM is subject to physical damage exposed below 8' - that is exsoped anywhere...... Under, within cabinets - anywhere.

What I do is a two gang adjustable box in the rough adjacent to the plumbing stub-outs fed with a 12/3. (GD/DW) Then at option of the owner - and at the same cost..... either a 12/2 phases and switch back to the GD adjacent to the sink above the counter to switch a single outlet, or leave it as just two single outlets, and leave/hand one of these to the GC to install when the CT's go in. (A caveman could do it....) I do it myself if I am on site when the CT's are in.... Two screws, a button and a tube - done! And looks great. Or if they have finish issues with plumbing - take myself out of the loop all together and leave it for the plumber.

The additional up side of these (the dual outlet model), other than customers love them due to the finished look, is that it also powers a hot water heater with the GD circuit while the GD is not in use, then when activated to operate the GD switches power between the two, and back to the water heater when done.

*For those about to jump on my two circuit GD/DW circuit - many of the homes I do use the biggest GD's made and usually the the DW is over 7.5A - some more.... I have even hade customers switch to Miele 220 models on me at the last minute before trim.... (Not that I am covered in that case - but my options are better at that point.)
 
bradleyelectric said:
A car would make a mess there also.

i concur

the air button has been around for years in spas, and it is not a bad idea for folks who have a backsplash that is low or do not want a switchbox in it.

but the button can leak, break, etc and the diaphragm box can have issues, so it is a higher maintenance deal.
 
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