GFCI Tripping on Inrush

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jtester said:
I called for a 120 volt 20 amp receptacle in a commercial juice bar to be GFCI protected. The refrigerator in this location trips the breaker and the manufacturer says it is due to inrush. I thought this problem had been resolved with newer GFCI receptacles.

What experiences are others having recently?

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Jim T
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Jim,

Since it occurs only at startup, if your single phase motor is of the capacitor start type where a second "phase" is created for startup, it is possible that the capacitor's coupling to earth is the problem. You may try to insulate the capacitor mounting.

Otherwise, take two aspirins and call me in the morning if sympthoms don't improve.:grin:
 
It was explained to me by an appilance repair person that the older refrigerators have a device in them-something on the defrost cycle-that will cause a GFCI to trip.
GFCIs seldom nuisance trip. I had one that was doing so on a small sump pump, the cord had been spliced and was full of water, nearly a dead short.
 
tallguy said:
NH allows owner-occupied to do own work. No test.
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Same in NY. I wish I had pictures to show you things that would cause you to lose sleep:rolleyes: No licensing required. I did a recent inspection before the "real" inspector was scheduled to arrive, which he still hasn't. What a holy-smokes nightmare! I'll post again on this later, too little time tonight to report of all the things I see fly here that otherwise would never even make it to rough in.

On another note,... I don't like posting on this forum. Some of you guys/gals are way too full of personal opinion. Don't automatically jump on someone if they are wrong. Guide them, throw them theory, show them what they need to know. Such aggression sometimes looks very offensive. Ease up, I like this site, but some of the subjects touched here remind me of why I choose to be a bachelor. This isn't a contest. Help your brother out. If anyone askes something really green, or you think they don't have the knowledge to be doing such work, explain to them why. Don't shove it down their neck. Alot of people will adventure to this site and look for professional help. When you grill them, they feel real stupid due to lack of experience. Why do that? This site isn't for DIY, I fully agree. Don't shoot for a kill with someone who is just simply looking for guidance. Alot of these codes I couldn't answer as far as construction. I did my stint in res and commercial, but construction doesn't interest me. I want to troubleshoot and get multi-million $ machinery back online. It's in my blood. If I question why the code is the way it is, not knowing otherwise, can I expect the same kind of brutal bashings? I don't care if you do maintenance, construction, contracting, inspections, etc.. We all reside in the field, why not go out of your way to help your fellow brother out? I have read many of replies here now. I find alot of them to be very distasteful. We are all in the same field, why reply to your brother in some of the fashion I have seen here? I have worked with many who keep their knowledge to their own selves for job security. Why do that? We are all in this together. Reach a hand out to someone who is trying to learn or who can't fully understand. None of us are Gods, share what you have with others:wink: I have worked along side of many know-it-alls, and it disturbs me. Who on this forum can say they know it all???? I am not saying anyone of you can. We should try to guide others in the right direction, not bash the difference between their opinion and yours. Tell them respectively why they are wrong, or how they misinterpreted, don't knock them out with a right handed sucker punch:confused:
 
Wasn't that long winded rant just a personal opinion?

Yes Sir, it was. Do you disagree? I find great feelings in helping someone accomplish something they need help on. If I work something, and they choose to rework it without question, I could get snappy real quick. I'm just speaking of overall response and help. When I spoke of working with some real good tradesman that deemed to "know-it-all", is when I was first learning. I started off on a bench doing electronics, I had people that I asked for help that would take it to their bench and fix it, only to come back and NOT share with me what they came to conclusion to. Crap like that, and so on. Why not share with each other and lend a hand out to anyone who is trying to learn? That is what I meant.
Look, I DO not want this to turn into a rave. I would just like to see others be helped out as much as possible. Remember my statement about remaining a bachelor? That's why, I have no arguement left in me.
Enough of this conversation. You can have the last word.
I'll leave my part with this. When I was first learning, I went from human to sponge. I soaked up as much as anyone would share with me. I learned on the job. Without those who lended the knowledge and a hand to me, I don't know where I'd be. I owe what I know to the things people have attributed to me, and I AM GRATEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They took me under their wing and guided me. I owe those people quite a bit;)
 
iwire said:
76nemo said:
On another note,... I don't like posting on this forum. Some of you guys/gals are way too full of personal opinion.
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Wasn't that long winded rant just a personal opinion? :roll:
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No, in this case, he's right. :grin:
 
76nemo said:
Do you disagree?
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Yes, yes I do.

This forum has virtually no 'flaming' or personal attacks.

I strongly suggest you check out similar Internet forums before you throw rocks at this one.

You seem to see things here that I do not, 99% of the time the members are helpful and respectful of each other.
 
iwire said:
Yes, yes I do.

This forum has virtually no 'flaming' or personal attacks.

I strongly suggest you check out similar Internet forums before you throw rocks at this one.

You seem to see things here that I do not, 99% of the time the members are helpful and respectful of each other.
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Direct and straight questions should not irritate the questioned unless they are on shaky grounds.
 
I think the confusion here is that this forum is for professionals and not really a do-it-ourself website, so some people are put off by a response that reminds them of this. No one here would ever recommend that a home owner do his own electrical, mainly from mistakes made by us even as seasoned apprentices.

A bit of knowledge is often a dangerous thing, when it is used without proper supervision.

A city inspector cannot possibly catch every mistake. And if the hand that fed the mind of the homeowner who caused damage or injury was a hand from here, then that hand would be remorseful.

So if these guys seem a bit brusk, it may be that they are reluctant to give someone enough rope to hang themselves.
 
That's why there is a sticky for "Treatment of New Members". I think somebody that was belittled must have complained. Posts about rude treatment form senior members toward new members have deleted, I know for sure!

This thread is a perfect example! Look at Post #77/78. It was LOCKED then UNLOCKED for a certain person to post then LOCKED again! Now it's UNLOCKED again!

I know of a HVAC site that's worse yet! They'll call you a BoneHead and JackAss then chuckle about it too! They do have a private area for contractors only though.

I am a professional just not a electrician!
 
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