HELP !!!! outlet placement?

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Originally posted by electricmanscott:
Originally posted by LMaloney: In a single family dwelling, is an outlet required by the NEC within 6 feet of any doorway.
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Yes.
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No.

As I said earlier, that is only true for the "kitchen, family room, dining room, living room, parlor, library, den, sunroom, bedroom, recreation room, or similar room or area." It is not true for hallways. 210.52(H).
 
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Originally posted by allenwayne:

This is a very grey area.What`s a hall what`s a room,most floor plans describe bedrooms family rooms etc. but have you seen plans that say hallway ?That is a disrestionary measure.,is it usable space .Who decides.The arcitect the builder the electrician.NOPE the inspectors does.
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When I raised the roof on my Cape Cod style home, I put I large dormer on the front of the house which then narrows to a hallway which leads to the bathroom. At the other end, there is a half-wall that runs along the stairs (rather than an open railing). The floor space at the top of the stairs is about 8' wide, but it's got a sloped wall/ceiling that limits the walk space until you reach the dormer. There's plenty of room up there for a TV and a seating area. During the rough inspection, the inspector told me I needed a receptacle in the half-wall within 6' of the end at the top of the stairs. This would have been very difficult because of the framing and location. I argued. He said "It's a sitting area, you need a receptacle". I said "It's a hallway". We looked on the plans, it said "New Hall". No receptacle. So I've got a hallway upstairs with 2 chairs, a TV, a computer desk, a bookshelf, and egress sized windows. Plenty of receptacles to serve the area. Clearly, this is more than just a hallway but the inspector accepted it as one because thats what my architect called it. Right or wrong is a debatable point, but I thought this would give a different perspective on this discussion.

John
 
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Originally posted by charlie b:
Originally posted by electricmanscott:
Originally posted by LMaloney: In a single family dwelling, is an outlet required by the NEC within 6 feet of any doorway.
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Yes.
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No.

As I said earlier, that is only true for the "kitchen, family room, dining room, living room, parlor, library, den, sunroom, bedroom, recreation room, or similar room or area." It is not true for hallways. 210.52(H).
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Ok you got me. I agree. I just didn't think clearly enough. This could be a garage door for all we know. Maybe even a doggie door.
 
outdoor outlet

outdoor outlet

I have a question that may be simple to some of you so bear with me. Are outdoor receps. required to be 20 amp receps. The IRC states that all 15 and 20 amp outlets outside have to be protecetd by GFCI, but it dosent say that have to be 20 amp.

I just wanted to clarify...

Thank you
 
electricmanscott said:
Yes.
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No. Unless I am wrong, not in a foyer, nor, as they are discussing, in a 15' hallway with a door on each end. One in the middle is sufficient and that would be 7'6" from either door.

Somebody beat me to the response. Don't mean to repeat. Sorry.
 
Also a fixed panel of a doorway or sliding door counts as wall space and so does stair railing if it isn't in a walkway or hallway.
 
toddw218 said:
Also a fixed panel of a doorway or sliding door counts as wall space and so does stair railing if it isn't in a walkway or hallway.
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Would't it be considered "stairs"?
 
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