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Re: How Does It Works?
Originally posted by physis:
He could run an IP check couldn't he.
How Does It Works?
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cselectric
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- Wisconsin
Re: How Does It Works?
Maybe you could bend over the ends of the wires in a hook shape, then thread a worm on them. Then, when you feel a tug you just pull the wires back out of the water. No annoying cranking required.
Maybe you could bend over the ends of the wires in a hook shape, then thread a worm on them. Then, when you feel a tug you just pull the wires back out of the water. No annoying cranking required.
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- Bremerton, Washington
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- Master Electrician
Re: How Does It Works?
In Washington State, to be an electrical contractor, you must have or be an Adminstrator. An adminstrator does not have to be an electrician, but can be. If you are a journeyman and an adminstrator, they can be combined into a Master Electrician Certification. I am not a Journeyman, I am a Master Electrician.
Licensing and certification is done by the states, typically a journeyman requires 4 years exp and a master 4 years beyond that.
In Washington State, to be an electrical contractor, you must have or be an Adminstrator. An adminstrator does not have to be an electrician, but can be. If you are a journeyman and an adminstrator, they can be combined into a Master Electrician Certification. I am not a Journeyman, I am a Master Electrician.
Licensing and certification is done by the states, typically a journeyman requires 4 years exp and a master 4 years beyond that.
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- Lockport, IL
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
Re: How Does It Works?
What do you think, guys and gals: Worth a change in career path at age 51?
Quite true. I have an Electrical Administrator License, and am an engineer, not an electrician. But that means that I cannot become a "Master Electrician," because I would first have to work my way through to Journeyman.
What do you think, guys and gals: Worth a change in career path at age 51?
Re: How Does It Works?
Charlie B. I think you left out a few key factors in answering and bashing Greg about his telphone. There are a few key elements required to get the desired effect, and I aim to tell you right now them fish will float up so damn fast they damn near fall back down in the boat with you. It won't stun the fish with scales like bass, carp or buffalo but any slick,oily skinned fish, like catfish, oh yeah go ahead and get your dip net ready.
For one you've got to have sand at the bottom of the river. It's got to be a river or a good stream. The rushing water keeps the sand agitated and thick well above the river bed. This makes the density of your conductivity even greater, giving wider range to your target. The leads on the telephone should be 15-20' long and when dropped into the water should touch the sandy bottom thus becoming the bullseye of your target. Same principle as when a high voltage line falls to the ground. What do you do if a high line falls near you? You bunny hop away, feet together so as to avoid stepping on opposing voltages created by voltage drop. The fish can't hop, so they wind up dragging their well conductive *** right across opposing feilds and before they know it their rolled and fried.
Rivers also carry the advantage over ponds not just for the agitation of the sand, and the sand itself, but you have a greater population of fish swimming through a 20' target increasing the odds.
I don't mean to come off as a smart *** , I've only seen phones once when I was out fishing with my uncle, I might have been 12 or 13, but when he started turning that handle it wasn't but just a minute before they started pop'n to the top. You might tell me it really works but your not going to tell me it doesn't.
Charlie B. I think you left out a few key factors in answering and bashing Greg about his telphone. There are a few key elements required to get the desired effect, and I aim to tell you right now them fish will float up so damn fast they damn near fall back down in the boat with you. It won't stun the fish with scales like bass, carp or buffalo but any slick,oily skinned fish, like catfish, oh yeah go ahead and get your dip net ready.
For one you've got to have sand at the bottom of the river. It's got to be a river or a good stream. The rushing water keeps the sand agitated and thick well above the river bed. This makes the density of your conductivity even greater, giving wider range to your target. The leads on the telephone should be 15-20' long and when dropped into the water should touch the sandy bottom thus becoming the bullseye of your target. Same principle as when a high voltage line falls to the ground. What do you do if a high line falls near you? You bunny hop away, feet together so as to avoid stepping on opposing voltages created by voltage drop. The fish can't hop, so they wind up dragging their well conductive *** right across opposing feilds and before they know it their rolled and fried.
Rivers also carry the advantage over ponds not just for the agitation of the sand, and the sand itself, but you have a greater population of fish swimming through a 20' target increasing the odds.
I don't mean to come off as a smart *** , I've only seen phones once when I was out fishing with my uncle, I might have been 12 or 13, but when he started turning that handle it wasn't but just a minute before they started pop'n to the top. You might tell me it really works but your not going to tell me it doesn't.
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- Bremerton, Washington
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- Master Electrician
Re: How Does It Works?
Charlie you could always become an instructor.
Just don't quit the code forum....
Charlie you could always become an instructor.
Just don't quit the code forum....
- Location
- Lockport, IL
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
Re: How Does It Works?
I have no intention to tell anyone that it doesn't work. But I will tell anyone that it is illegal, and that I would be the first to call the park service. Then again, feel free to be the first to call the state patrol, if you see me speeding on the highway. Fair is fair.
physis
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Re: How Does It Works?
I'm the guy who said it wouldn't work. I'm having a hard time believing you can get enough current density across a significant area. But if there are hordes of hillbillies runnin' loose through the mountains with them new fangled hand crank talkin' boxes/fishin' poles I guess I'll stand corrected.
I'm the guy who said it wouldn't work. I'm having a hard time believing you can get enough current density across a significant area. But if there are hordes of hillbillies runnin' loose through the mountains with them new fangled hand crank talkin' boxes/fishin' poles I guess I'll stand corrected.
Re: How Does It Works?
I'm a little skeptical also. We had a small crank generator in our physics class that lit a lamp. I'd guess you could get 20 watts out of it. Spread that out over 10 feet vertical, 10 feet horizontal, and 10' across (I can't believe there would be more than a couple fish in that volume). You get 0.2 watts over a square foot. I would take a wild guess at needing 200 volts to push a current through 10' of water, so that leaves 1 milliamp per cubic foot.
Hmmm....I think that could go either way.
I'm going to go home and tell my kids "When I was a kid, we had to crank our cell phones to get internet access!"
Steve
I'm a little skeptical also. We had a small crank generator in our physics class that lit a lamp. I'd guess you could get 20 watts out of it. Spread that out over 10 feet vertical, 10 feet horizontal, and 10' across (I can't believe there would be more than a couple fish in that volume). You get 0.2 watts over a square foot. I would take a wild guess at needing 200 volts to push a current through 10' of water, so that leaves 1 milliamp per cubic foot.
Hmmm....I think that could go either way.
I'm going to go home and tell my kids "When I was a kid, we had to crank our cell phones to get internet access!"
Steve
jwelectric
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- North Carolina
Re: How Does It Works?
you forgot to add in the snow and while barefoot.Originally posted by physis:
I should have said volume huh Steve.
And I used to have to walk up hill both ways to use the internet.
- Location
- Lockport, IL
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
Re: How Does It Works?
Yea ya did.
About ten years ago, when my niece and nephew were in their early elementary school years, their mother brought them to the library, to get their first library cards. The librarian started typing out the cards, when the niece asked what that machine was. She was told it was a "typewriter." Her response was, "OOOOHHH! What does it do?"
Yea ya did.
About ten years ago, when my niece and nephew were in their early elementary school years, their mother brought them to the library, to get their first library cards. The librarian started typing out the cards, when the niece asked what that machine was. She was told it was a "typewriter." Her response was, "OOOOHHH! What does it do?"
Re: How Does It Works?
I swear we have a draftsman (CAD operator) who was shocked when I emptied the electric pencil sharpener.
"What!! You can empty those??"
Where else would all the shavings go?? I don't think the kid has used a pencil in his entire life!!
I swear we have a draftsman (CAD operator) who was shocked when I emptied the electric pencil sharpener.
"What!! You can empty those??"
Where else would all the shavings go?? I don't think the kid has used a pencil in his entire life!!
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